At 4:18 pm +0000 on 28/11/01, "Beadle, Tim" <[log in to unmask]> wrote : >This is true, but isn't this entire discussion a "red herring"? If the data >is simply stored on videotape it is, to all intents and purposes NOT a >database and is certainly NOT searchable as there is no structure related to >the personal data (the image). A time/date stamp would not make it >searchable UNLESS there was a separate database that contained that >information AND linked it to the individual. Therefore it does NOT fall >under the ambit of the DPA - whatever Ms France may choose to say on the >subject - any more than a random sheaf of papers on my desk does. It is only >IF the data is organised in a way that makes the PERSONAL data searchable >either directly or indirectly that it falls under the ambit of the DPA - or >am I missing something? You're missing something! No one mentioned videotape. The personal image/s are stored in digital form on a computer, and hence can be (and indeed, must be!) indexed. The personal data involved in renting a van is stored electronically along with the digitised photograph... which makes it personal data? However, despite helpful comments, I'm still somewhat unclear whether it's a) OK when renting a van to take my photograph without my permission and b) having done so, to then store the photograph in digital form without time limit... - duncan ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Duncan Langford Computing Laboratory, University of Kent at Canterbury UK Practical Computer Ethics:McGrawHill Business Computer Ethics:AddisonWesley 'Internet Ethics' - MacMillan Press (UK) and St Martins Press (USA) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - www.jiscmail.ac.uk/user-manual/summary-user-commands.htm all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^