In this situation I would argue that the obtaining is unfair. As a caller I do not know that you have captured and recorded my telephone number, nor the purposes for which you hold the data, to whom you disclose it, etc. Although there are technical actions I can take to prevent you capturing my number (the blocking you mention), I should not have to do this. Surely the whole point here is that you have OBTAINED my number, rather than being "given" it by me. Giving implies a conscious process. If I stand behind you at the cashpoint machine and catch sight of your PIN as you enter it would you consider that you have "given" that information to me? Stuart Cashmore Data Security Manager McKessonHBOC (UK), No. 1 Nine Elms Lane, LONDON SW8 5RR Tel. 020-7819 5083 (with Voicemail) Mob. 07799-790019 Fax. 020-7819 5100 e-mail [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Smith [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 06 September 2001 11:59 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Caller Line Identification & Call centres Dear group, Scenario: I operate a call centre and receive inbound calls requesting information for my products and services. The telco system brings up the callers telephone number (CLIP) which is input onto the contact database by the tele-agent. The caller is never asked for their telephone no. Later follow up calls use the captured telephone number as part of an outbound follow up campaign (after TPS screening of course :-)) Is this unfair obtaining, or can we assume that the caller, by not exercising their right to remain anonymous (either by line blocking or call blocking) has given us their telephone number freely? Duncan S Smith Principal Consultant e-mail: [log in to unmask] gsm: +44 (0)777 556 8180 Company Profiles "The process of Improvement" ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. This footnote confirms that this email message has been swept by Norton Antivirus software for the presence of computer viruses. Company Profiles Huntingdon UK +44(0)1480 461671 ----------------------------------------------------------------- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - www.jiscmail.ac.uk/user-manual/summary-user-commands.htm all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy, distribute, or take any action or reliance on it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender. Any unauthorised disclosure of the information contained in this e-mail is strictly prohibited. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - www.jiscmail.ac.uk/user-manual/summary-user-commands.htm all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^