At a DP conference for the health sector some time ago, a compliance officer from ODPR was asked to provide a definition of a structured file. He ventured the opinion that if you filed data in any way that meant it was useable then it would probably be regarded as structured. Stuart Cashmore Management Information Projects Manager McKessonHBOC (UK), No. 1 Nine Elms Lane, LONDON SW8 5RR Tel. 020-7819 5083 (with Voicemail) Mob. 07799-790019 Fax. 020-7819 5100 e-mail [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> -----Original Message----- From: GOULDING, Susan - NC [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 13 June 2001 11:06 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Structured files If it's a public authority it will be governed by FOI as well - which applies subject access rights to unstructured files, so no easy escape route there, I'd have thought. Su Goulding Legal Officer, NSPCC 020-7825-1393 [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: Hubert, Paul [STU] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 13 June 2001 10:52 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Structured files Paul Ticher suggested: ... an alternative approach might be to have a paper file recording complaints and outcomes, which is there to demonstrate that you have followed your procedures, but one that is not 'structured' so that you can readily find specific information about particular individuals (definitions in s.1) - i.e. perhaps it's just in date order. In this case the complaints log may well not be personal data. If it's not personal data, it's not covered by the Act, so is not available to subject access. This to me looks like an evasion rather than an escape route. Is it a legitimate method for a public authority to keep information on people? There may be Human Rights Act implications to doing it. And how unstructured does a file have to be before it escapes? And if so, will it then have any valid use at all? If it's stored in date order, you have a way of relating the date to the individual and you can within a few minutes find the information relating to the case of the individual, isn't it structured enough? It seems to me likely that the reason Paula wants to keep it involves relating it to the individual. Paul Hubert ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - www.jiscmail.ac.uk/user-manual/summary-user-commands.htm all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - www.jiscmail.ac.uk/user-manual/summary-user-commands.htm all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy, distribute, or take any action or reliance on it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender. Any unauthorised disclosure of the information contained in this e-mail is strictly prohibited. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - www.jiscmail.ac.uk/user-manual/summary-user-commands.htm all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^