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chuckle! I like this queer variation! L -----Original Message----- From: Mark Weiss [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 8:40 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: landscape I know there are such in Gay folklore, but only recently, and of course as a take-off. More than that I'm not qualified to say. Altho I do remember one: Travelling salesman lost on a stormy night in the boonies finally finds a solitary farmhouse. Knocks at the door. When farmer sticks head out window salesman begs refuge for the night. "Well alright, stranger," the kindly farmer answers, "but you'll have to share a bed with my son." To which the salesman replies, "Wait a minute--I'm in the wrong joke!" In the traditional genre either the farmer is presented as a fool for putting his son in bed with the daughter or the salesman for not taking advantage of the girl's lubricity. And there are lots of experienced women and innocent boy jokes. Gershon Legman has two saleswoman jokes in his monumental _Rationale of the Dirty Joke_, first series (p. 124). Here's one (the other is similar) from 1938: "The travelling saleswoman stops at the farmer's house. There is no extra room so she must sleep with the farmer's son. During the night she nudges him and says, 'Do something.' 'Huh?' 'Do something!' He (vibrating his lower lip with one finger): 'Bubba-bubba-bubble.'" Until very very recently there weren't a lot of women salespeople travelling the hinterland, so such jokes are rare. The Farmer's Daughter stories are upgrades of the soldier (or gypsy, etc)-and-the-maid songs--a long history behind those. History--as written, but also as lived--has rarely been equal-opportunity. There are also, I think, no father-in-law jokes. Even female commedians are more likely to talk about their mothers-in-law. Mark At 04:04 PM 1/20/2001 -0000, Liz Kirby wrote: >it occurs to me to wonder about farmer's son jokes > >? > >Liz > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark Weiss [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] >Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 12:12 AM >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: landscape > >Oh, John, you know: that non-urban stuff. > >Seriously, I think rural romantics are probably cityfolk on holiday. > >Or urban guys who think farmers-daughter jokes are true stories. Are there >farmers-duaghter jokes in Australia? > >Mark > >At 06:55 PM 1/19/2001 -0500, John Kinsella wrote: >>who are the rural romantics? what IS rural romanticism? >> >>best, >>jk >> >> > >