Here's a quote I like -- I'm not sure which side of the "aisle" it applies to in this conversation:
"You are never dedicated to something you have complete confidence in. No one is fanatically shouting that the sun is going to rise tomorrow. The <<know>> it's going to rise tomorrow. When people are fanatically dedicated to political or religious faiths or any other kinds of dogmas or goals, it's always because these dogmas or goals are in doubt."
Robert Pirsig. Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, p. 134.
Allen
Allen F. Shaughnessy, PharmD
Director of Research
Associate Residency Director
Harrisburg Family Practice Residency
Harrisburg, PA 17101
-----Original Message-----
From: Kamini Shah [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 12:34 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Evidence of Ineffectiveness
I find the suggestion that someone should be banned from a discussion list
such as this because of his/her beliefs to be quite offensive. People are
entitled to their beliefs and to speak about them in appropriate
ways. There is nothing inappropriate in what Kevin has done - about
providing a web address and allowing the reader to do with the information
as (s)he pleases.
Besides, isn't open mindedness to other points of view one of the
foundations of scientific pursuit? You do not have to fully buy into what
someone else is saying in order to learn from them. And exposing yourself
to another paradigm might trigger some thoughts of your own (related or
unrelated to the initial info - such as what happens during a brainstorming
session), which might lead you down some useful pathways that you might not
otherwise have found.
K.
At 09:28 AM 12/15/00 +0000, Guthrie, Dr Bruce wrote:
>Dear all,
>
>This is the third (at least) message that Kevin has posted to the list
>offering 'help' with queries. His links are all to Scientology sites. I
>don't suppose it really matters since few people following the links
>are likely to take them seriously, but should he really be a list
>member?
>
>Bruce
>
> > The information below may be of some help
> >
> > The History of ECT
> > http://www.cchr.org/ect/index.htm
> >
> > No Cures Just More Disorders
> > http://psychextortion.cchr.org/eng/page12.htm
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Kevin
>
>
>Bruce Guthrie,
>MRC Training Fellow in Health Services Research,
>Department of General Practice,
>University of Edinburgh,
>20 West Richmond Street,
>Edinburgh EH8 9DX
>Tel 0131 650 9237
>e-mail [log in to unmask]