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How about some feedback from the list on any benefits for gout infl w/ use of lithium ionto? Sarah Fern Striffler, PT Bruce Gray wrote: > Just to get the thread back on topic, I am the sole OPD physio at a Qld country 90 bed hospital in Australia. I recently put all the machines that go "ping" into the back storage room, and there are many other hospital storerooms like this. > > So to affirm my point, electrotherapy sucks. There is no convincing comparative invivo studies that show it is a better treatment then the intelligent appn of ice/heat, rest/movement, and anti-inflamms. I am talking everything from US to SWD to laser. My litmus test for the benefits of electrotherapy is to go and try the putated anti-inflamm properties of US on an acute gout attack.......any of you out there charging good money to treat inflammation with electrotherapy instead of encouraging your patients to go and get a script for NSAIDs cannot call yourselves scientifically trained. > > If you think 30 mins of electrotherapy 2x/wk (if you are lucky) can do anything significant to fibroblast or leucocyte function, then you are a captive of the dogma of a conservative bunch of old women who know no better. > > I urge you all to come join the revolution- throw your placebo "ping" machines away, draw out Occam's Razor and slash the ties that bind you to a flawed anachronistic paradigm.....choose instead to never compromise on finding truth again...... > > > > > Like their rugby I suppose?!? > > > > > They're learning them from New Zealand!!! > > > > > > >>> [log in to unmask] 10/17/00 12:27 >>> > > > Henry > > > > > > Although South African trained, I am working in the UK and have > > > worked > > > with or been associated with numerous physios from OZ. Almost > > > without > > > exception, they have all used elements of Maitland, Mulligan, soft > > > tissue work akin to Travell and Simons, rehab and very little > > > electrotherapy . > > > > > > Where are they learning these 'radical' techniques if not in > > > Australia? > > > > > > dave riddell > > > > > > > > > > From: Henry Tsao [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > > > > Sent: 16 October 2000 11:43 > > > > To: [log in to unmask] > > > > Subject: evidence based practice... > > > > > > > > Recently, since I have joined the mailbase, I have found myself > > > > searching > > > > for research and looking for answers behind what I am actually > > > doing. > > > > I have > > > > continued to question my work. From what I know, it seems that > > > > everybody is > > > > interested in evidence based practice. > > > > > > > > However, I was talking to Megan Dalton, who is a well known > > > > physiotherapist > > > > in Australia early last week. She is a very out spoken Physio and > > > a > > > > very > > > > interesting physio to talk to (I have seen her talk in 2 > > > occasions, > > > > and she > > > > just has so much energy!!). She told me that it seemed ridiculous > > > that > > > > > > > > Physiotherapy departments in Australia don't teach Mulligan's, > > > > Mckenzie and > > > > other radical techniques, for the pure reason that there is not > > > enough > > > > > > > > evidence. However, (and I know that this is true for me) they teach > > > so > > > > much > > > > electrotherapy, most of which does not have too much research > > > anyway > > > > (due > > > > mostly to the difficulty of these techniques), and this seemed > > > very > > > > ironical > > > > to her and to me also. > > > > > > > > Megan perceived the future of physiotherapy to be with little or no > > > > > > > electrotherapy (which to me is a very big step), and I just wanted > > > to > > > > ask > > > > what people in this mailbase thought about this claim. To let > > > people > > > > know, > > > > the electro I use is a Likon, ultrasound, at time the > > > interferential > > > > (which > > > > I do not use too often these days), and very rarely the magnetic > > > wave. > > > > I > > > > tried to search for research the other day, but obviously was > > > limited > > > > in > > > > what I found. any thoughts or ideas?? > > > > > > > > Henry*** > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > > ___ > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > > > http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > > > > > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > Free Unlimited Internet Access! Try it now! > http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/altavista/index.html > > _______________________________________________________________________ %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%