Dear John Thank you for your superb and scholarly answer to my query; I feel it should be the core element of a letter to the 'Times' or 'Telegraph'; your clear cut definition of the words 'Racist' and 'Racism' should replace pejoration with refreshing logic and clinical etymology. As RK might have said: 'Shabash ! Cram Bahadur' Regards Michael Jefferson. Date: Friday, July 07, 2000 10:38 PM Subject: "Race" Michael Jefferson asked > would someone please define 'Race' and 'Racism' in the > context that it applies to RK for me ? May I offer a partial answer from the genetics aspect? 'Race' as defined in a recent text is 'an intraspecific category characterised by conspicuous physiological ('physiological race'), biological ('biological race') or ecological ('ecological race') properties." 'Intraspecific' means it is a sub-group of animals [or plants] within a species. Most importantly, 'race' is not a valid rank in the zoological or botanical taxonomic codes. In other words, 'race' has always had such a mixed meaning that it was never used to name any category in official classifications. This was true in RK's time. The term 'race' therefore has no objective reality. Rather, a 'race' is in the eye of the beholder. The old idea, as far as I can understand it, is that in a particular, say, geographical 'race' all have a set of characteristics which differentiate them from the surrounding population. But the 'human race' is continuously variable. There are no groups of humans with specific characters sharply divided from all others. (Just as Great Britain is all one - the mountains merge into the plains.) Speaking without evidence I am afraid, I have the impression that 'racism' is equated to saying 's/he is part of a group which is different from me' [and inferior], and acting towards them not as fellow human beings. To claim someone or some group differs from oneself in that way is mistaken. To act towards someone in that manner seems to me to be immoral. I sense that these are the types of thought that lie behind the general disapproval of 'racism'. Does all this betray my Wesleyan background? Even if it does, the two genetic matters of fact remain, viz:- 'Race' has no taxonomic standing, and Homo sapiens is continuously variable. Regards John Cram %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%