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Not to me. I find all this interesting. It also reminds me of Droge and Tabor's _A Noble Death_, which seriously attempts to draw the fine line between suicide and martyrdom, and tangentially touches on self-inflicted suffering. KW ----- Original Message ---- > Bill East <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > But why do I afflict the list with a story only too familiar to all our > members? > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%