> From: Maeve B. Callan [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > > Some rambling thoughts on the history of the practice, which is often > called syneisaktism. > Thank you for so generously sharing your "rambling thoughts," for putting a name on the practice, and for the suggested sources. I agree that this was quite different from an intentional spiritual marriage ("married continence"). I'd also suggest that the Irish sources, at least, do not see the association as a supportive companionship. I agree that the women--and it's almost always two--seem to be more like props in an exercise of ascetic athletics. You wrote: > Ireland seems to offer the widest perspective on the practice, for, > against, and indifferent [....] > Why do you think it assumed such apparent importance in Ireland? It's as if the monkish saints, vowed to celibacy, had to be as angelically detached as their secular heroic counterparts were required to be potent. Francine %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%