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>Are you sure that what you identify as a dog is not a lamb? On the subject of Judas, I will shamelessly announce that "Saint Judas, Apostle and Martyr..." will be available in August. The blurb is already on Amazon.com under my name: Kathryn Wildgen. What you say about Judas (that he did what God the Father did, i.e. hand over Christ to be crucified) is at the core of some of Abelard's "Ethics" (sin is in the will, etc) and was among the many things that got him (Abelard)in hot water. There was endless debate in the 12th century concerning Judas' "ordination" and reception of the Eucharist at the Last Supper. He was also repeatedly invoked in the argument linking investiture with simony. I'd better stop now or you'll get an eyeful that will have you screaming for mercy. Best, Kathryn Dear List members > I realize that this is an old thread however, after going through all the pictures we took in Paris, I re discovered several *blurry* ones we had taken of a painting of the Virgin mary breast feeding the Christ Child. Interestingly, she is holding her breast and offering it to the mouth of Christ Child but the breast itself seems almost as if it is not attached to her body. Also there is a bird with outspread wings in the Christ Child's hand - perhaps smbolizing the Holy Spirit , or God, the Father at the same time. > > The title of the painting is** _ Scenes de la Vie de la Vierge_ Angleterre vers 1325**. One panel is the lactating, breast feeding Mary, the other panel seems to be Christ appearing to her when she is on her deathbed. There are more panels I believe but i was unable to develop the film on those. > > Does anyone know of this particular painting? If you wish the several views I have of it,. please email me privately. Unfortunately, as I say, the pictures are blurry. If any of you who live in Paris have a chance to go to Musee de Cluny , it is a lovely picture. > > Another interesting piece we saw, was an altar wood carving depicting _ The LAst Supper _ . However, on the plate in Front of Christ was the body of a dog. Now, this is interesting to me. I know the French love their dogs. They take them everywhere with them, into cafe;s restaurants, shops. And medieval things we ahve seen depict a large number of dogs. However, to find a carcass of a dog on the plate at _The LAst Supper_ seems very very odd. I would like to have your input on this phenomenon. > > If we hadnt seen it with our own eyes, I wouldnt have believe dit. > > Of course I have thought of the old adage - Dog backwards spells GOD. However, I'm not sure this fits here in this place. A Medieval picture depicting such a "pun" seems somehow irreverent to me. > > Any input , please??? > > i was also able to get fairly good pictures of the tapestries of the Lady and The Unicorn. one of my favourites. > > And to finish up this section, as I am full of the re-membering of what we saw, through the pictures - there was a wonderful wood carved picture of the Crucified Christ adn the hanging Judas in one small rendition. Very interesting. it got me to thinking that Judas was fulfilling god's will by betraying Jesus. > > This leads me to ask for input on Judas, his role, and his destiny. What lies after death for Judas, who, if he is fulfilling God's will by his betrayal, is actually serving God??? I hope I offend no one with these questions. they have been questions I have pondered over for sometime. > > Thank you for anticipated input. > > Aslo if anyone wants pictures of these I am happy to send them > > regards > > > Carol Anne Fountain > University of WEstern Ontario > London Ontario > Canada > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%