Does this ring any bells with anyone ?? John R -----Original Message----- From: Ellen Clements <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> Date: 28 May 2000 00:20 Subject: Obscure poem that may/may not be by RK >Dear Mr. Smith, > >Please don't be offended by this request. About 50+ years ago, when I was in >high school, a poem was being passed around among some of the students. As I >recall, it was printed in a bound book, & the boy showing it around said it >was by Kipling. I got the impression that it was a bit of an underground >item, although that may have been because in those days seeing even a mildly >taboo word like "bastard" in print was likely to produce a bit of a frisson, >especially if you were a girl. > >As I recall, the title of the poem is "The Ballad of the Bastard Kings of >England," & it has a recurrent refrain at the end of each stanza that starts >(or perhaps ends) "Oh, our parents forgot to get married, . . . ." I've >looked through the titles of poems in books purporting to be the complete >poetry of RK and looked at poems with other titles that seemed promising, >all without success. I'd be happy if you or any of your connections can >point me in the right direction--by which I mean provide me with the correct >title, or disabuse me of the notion that it is by RK &provide the name of >the real author. Perhaps someone is a bawdry enthusiast as well as a Kipling >lover. > >This item, which I remember as quite witty (but what does a 15-year-old >know?), was published in a book, unlike many false attributions that >are/were circulated as carbon, ditto, mimeo, or photo copies. I have one of >these: a faded, wrinkled carbon copy of an item called "The Passing of the >Old Out Back," allegedly by the American poet James Whitcomb Reilly, who was >kin to my late husband's family. Supposedly, it was too "earthy" to be >published in his day, but my father-in-law claimed it was authentic. I have >my doubts. > >Thank you for your kind attention to this trivial literary concern. > >Sincerely, > >Ellen Clements >"The Editor" >[log in to unmask] > > > > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%