Dear Panos You may recall my input on this topic. I feel it can be summarised as such. Most of the tests I have seen for the cervical spine, applicable for serious pathology are seriously provocative. As you will know Sharp Pursa is one of the 7 upper cervical tests I mentioned. As well as VBI I do not use these because of the danger the test itself holds. This is a conclusion I have come to on my own without the benefit of sufficient evidencing. For these reasons I do not feel confident to use velocity type or strong combined movts on the Cx. That is to say the tests to determine the severity of the cervical problem are either too inaccurate, insensitive or provocative to perform; thus leaving an element of doubt in the patients diagnosis. I usually find there should be enough alarm bells ringing in a thorough subjective exam to necessitate a consultation with a neuro surgeon and MRI. This answer is more borne out of practice than science, but I hope it has some value all the same Warm Regards Kevin Reese UK PT. -----Original Message----- From: Panos Barlas <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> Date: 06 April 2000 17:45 Subject: Pre Manipulative Neck Testing Dear all, it is with interest that I followed all the discussions on the past week or so on Pilates, the role of physiotherapist as a reflective practitioner and now with reference to pre-manipulative cervical spine testing. Coincidentally, my colleague and I are in the process of finalising a paper (preliminary results have been already communicated on this: Forrester, GA, Barlas P (1999) Reliability and validity of the Sharp-Purser Test in the assessment of atlanto-axial instability in patients with rheumatoid arthritis. Physiotherapy, 85 (7), pp. 376) which refers to the accuracy of physiotherapists in diagnosing Atlantoaxial instability on rheumatoid pain patients. The results of this investigation are summarised below (straight from the results section of the paper in question) Table 4: Overall inter-therapist reliability Overall Kappa Value Ko = 0.20 Standard Error = 0.05 95% Confidence Interval = 0.09 to 0.30 Z score = 3.72 (significant at 0.0002 level) (Overall) Sensitivity Specificity PPV NPV 0.43 0.77 0.34 0.89 Now, on the basis of these results, I would not like my neck to be in the line (literaly!). Althought the argument may be that these results may not be a true reflection of the clinical reality [we used 6 MACP therapists with >3 years experience on 31 patients with an AAI incidence of 16% (5/31)], it is my belief that this should raise significant questions as to our beliefs of the results such tests as the Sharp-purser that was tested here yield. Has anyone out there have any data of Sensitivity and Specificity, PPV and NPV for any other tests (eg. Lachman, ULTT1 etc)? I have tried to locate some but my efforts were fruitless. The main question I am trying to raise is this: How comfortable are we as therapists with our current knowledge of the usefulness of the tools that we use daily? If the study above is the tip of the iceberg (and by no means I think that we broke new heights of research here) how can we trust that what we do is right for our patients in the first instance, but from a professional ethics point of view also? I am not aware of the MACP guidelines on premanipulative cervical spine screening. I am aware however that the Sharp Purser test is one of the most commonly used for that purpose. So, the question to be asked is: On what basis are any guidelines produced? How much are we to believe them? I hope my comments are seen in their true light, which is one of exploration and not as personal attacks. Looking forward to your contributions, yours, Panos Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 10:22:54 +0100 From: Ralph Hammond <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: VBI testing Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> Sorry to be a bit slow with this one. The Manipulation Association of Chartered Physiotherapists and the Society of Orthopaedic Medicine have produced guidance for pre-manipulative testing of the cevical spine. The reference is: Barker S et al (2000) Guidance for premanipulative testing of the cervical spine Manual Therapy 5, 1, 37 - 40 Ralph Hammond MCSP Professional Adviser Research and Clinical Effectiveness Unit The Chartered Society of Physiotherapy 14 Bedford Row London WC1R 4ED UK Tel: 020 7306 6636 Fax: 020 7306 6611 Web: www.csp.org.uk P. Barlas, BSc(Hons) PDD, DPhil, MCSP, SRP, Lic.Ac Lecturer, Physiotherapy Subject Group, Coventry University, Priory Street, Coventry, CV1 5FB Tel: 024-76-888980 Fax: 024-76-888020 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%