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Here are the requested bibiliographical details: The two parts of the work of Strothmann were published in 1995 in "Theologie und Glaube" (Das Konzil von Sens 1138 und die entgültige Verurteilung Abaelard's 140, 85, 238-254 and 396-410). The work is published in German; I don't know, if there's a translation in English! It would take a long time, to report the long and - in my opinion - convincing list of arguments. You must read yourself! The first part of the work is published on Internet; you will find it here: http://pbhrzs0.uni-paderborn.de/~rhatt1/_rhatt1/thgl.htm. I'm very interested to hear your opinion about it! Many greetings W. Robl P.S.: Strothmann published another equally interesting work about Arnold of Brescia! You will find it at the same site! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill East <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 1:17 PM Subject: Re: The Philosophy of Peter Abelard > > > He reported most of the dates of Abelard's life accurately - except > > the date > > of the council of Sens. In 1995 a German scholar named Jürgen > > Strothmann > > demonstrated, that, most probably, the council took place in 1138 and > > not in > > 1140. So the last period of Abelard's life must be reinterprated > > including > > his relations to Arnold of Brescia. It's absolutely incomprehensible, > > that > > most scholars in the world - including Marenbon, Mews, Clanchy - > > ignore the > > well-done and profound study of Strothmann! > > Probably because they did not know about it. I certainly did not. > Would you be so kind as to give us full bibliographical details, and > perhaps the highlights - or lowdowns? > > Oriens. > > ____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%