This raises a very interesting question about just how different psychologically we are - if at all - from folks in different ages. Psychology was "invented" recently, but the psyche wasn't. Weren't acedia and tristitia forms of the "blues," or depression? I hope this comment doesn't start a riot... I've already caused enough trouble! I've also responded to Maeve's comments and I assume my response will reach you too. Best, Kathryn Tom Izbicki wrote: > > Much like the speculation on Hildegard & migraine, are we not in danger of > ruling people "strange" or "sick" in some way more fitting to these days > than to the Middle Ages? > > Tom Izbicki > > At 10:13 AM 3/22/2000 -0600, you wrote: > >>Kathryn of Covington LA wrote: > >>. . . C. of Siena, too neurotic, > > > >Of all the company she keeps, and she's neurotic? I'm curious as to > >why she strikes you as such, since she's one of the last saints I'd > >classify as neurotic (although I grant a few of the tales told by > >Raymond could qualify). I find her one of the most empowered and > >empowering saints, who embodied caritas, both of God and neighbor > >(she could maybe have worked on her love of self, but most saints, > >especially female saints, probably could have). She chose to serve > >those who needed her most, in the face of great suffering, hatred, > >violence, etc, which might make a lesser mind neurotic, but she > >remained committed, balanced, calm, and a constant source of support > >for others. To me, she possesses most of the best virtues of being a > >saint, and, more importantly, of being human. > > > >Maeve > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%