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Jim, Alex, and all-- I have to differ with Jim's list. Many people doing work in cultural studies, folklore, identity studies, sociology, linguistics, psychology, (and probably a whole host of others I'm not thinking about) are interested theoretically and otherwise in some of the very things on Jim's list, and debates have happened here. I will admit though that the list has tended to shy away from personal stories/individual advocacy, in some respects... there are indeed "advocacy/rights" listservs which take on a different focus. Johnson At 01:47 PM 2/3/00 -0500, Jim Davis wrote: >Alex, > >Every group of people, perhaps even if it's just in cyber-space, no >matter how the founder(s) launch it... can take on "a life of it's >own"... a direction, or local-culture evolves.... > >This List was launched as "research", a very limited scope, that does >NOT seem to include a lot of disability-related topics: > >disabled rights organising, >local practical "barrier removal" activism / advocacy, >liberation organising, >emerging PWD culture-building, >status of service programs and their changes / cutbacks, >dealing with individual "case" problems.. (lusting after the most >heavily-advertised movie stars).... > >..... Every one of those topics could, and probably should, have it's >own separate List, somewhere... > >Do you really want a One-Size-Fits-All "Disability Stuff List", to post >a remark about how half of the bus lifts in your city are broken.... and >get back no relevant replies, plus you'd get 4 replies that pick one >word out of your posting, in order to wrestle with it? > >---------- > >Speaking of Cognitive stuff that you'd like to see more of... I am, in >recent months, investigating part of this area, in order to try to >develop environmental design approaches, to assisting a client with >brain injuries, in transition back to independent living. But this work >is "reality based", going direct from situational facts to design, >largely bypassing generalised & abstracted "theory". > >This "cognitive disability" related project is really about everything >BUT words. Therefor, I have only mentioned it very breifly on this List >(an inquiry for help, which didn't attract any).... and I will not be >posting anything further about it, here. I don't think it's >"theoretical enough" for the more active members of this list. Too >practical. > >But I'd be happy to discuss it, one to one, off list. > >Received: from mailsorter-101-5.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.30) by > storefull-173.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 > 08:31:04 -0800 (PST) >Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> >Received: from mailout2.mailbase.ac.uk (mailout2.mailbase.ac.uk > [128.240.226.12]) by mailsorter-101-5.iap.bryant.webtv.net > (8.8.8-wtv-e/ms.dwm.v7+dul2) > with ESMTP id IAA16827 for <[log in to unmask]>; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 > 08:30:28 -0800 (PST) >Received: from naga.mailbase.ac.uk (naga.mailbase.ac.uk [128.240.226.3]) by > mailout2.mailbase.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA28077; Wed, > 2 Feb 2000 15:56:14 GMT >Received: (from daemon@localhost) by naga.mailbase.ac.uk (8.8.x/Mailbase) > id PAA19860; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:54:42 GMT >Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by > naga.mailbase.ac.uk (8.8.x/Mailbase) with ESMTP id PAA19852; Wed, 2 > Feb 2000 15:54:39 GMT >Received: from deanhead.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.107.254]) by > mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 12G276-0006ta-00 > for [log in to unmask]; Wed, 02 Feb 2000 15:54:40 > +0000 >Received: from DEANHEAD/SpoolDir by deanhead.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 2 > Feb 00 15:54:41 +0000 >Received: from SpoolDir by DEANHEAD (Mercury 1.46); 2 Feb 00 15:54:29 +0000 >Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:54:22 -0000 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Priority: normal >X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) >Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: too dark to debate? >From: "A.Mcclimens" <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >X-List: [log in to unmask] >X-Unsub: To leave, send text 'leave disability-research' to > [log in to unmask] >X-List-Unsubscribe: ><mailto:[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: "A.Mcclimens" <[log in to unmask]> >Sender: [log in to unmask] >Errors-To: [log in to unmask] >Precedence: list >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > >Afternoon All; > >I note that some people have recently taken their ball home to set >up a new game in a different playground. I think that's too bad >since the purpose of this list seems to be to promote debate rather >than curtail it. Would it be appropriate for a show of hands to >decide who wants to keep playing? >Personally I'd like to see more discussion around cognitive >disability but I won't spit my dummy out just yet, besides it's not >too dark to debate and anyway, I'd rather continue the game than >go home to bed. > >yours, >(playfully) > >Alex Johnson Cheu [log in to unmask] http://people.english.ohio-state.edu/cheu.1 The Ohio State University Dept. of English 421 Denney Hall, 164 W. 17th. Ave. Columbus, OH 43210 (614) 292-1730 (Office); (614) 292-6065 (Dept.); (614) 292-7816 (Fax) %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%