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In a message dated 01/09/2000 9:47:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > If so, is it possible that the adultery and murder > committed by King David were mistakenly attributed to St. John on the > grounds > that both were golden-tongued? I say this with absolutely no > confidence--pure speculation and nothing but! He didn't exactly commit a murder--simply ordered that Uriah be sent to the most dangerous position (2 Samuel 11.15). A lot of times, it's better to actually read the Biblical material before one "speculates" on what it says, as I think you might be realizing. Why is it important to you to prove similarities between David and John, and what are you going to do if they don't exist? pat %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%