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Good day to all! In <i>The Stripping of the Altars</i>, pp. 183ff, Duffy describes a process that might best be described as striking a bargain with a saint. In return for some benefit from a saint, the person venerating the saint would promise to perform a specific deed. (Duffy describes this trans- action as a "contract.") Martin Luther described such a transaction he made with St. Anne. (It's in the Table Talk somewhere, but I cannot find it right at the moment. The gist was, "Help me, St. Anne, and I shall become a monk," [if we accept the Table Talk as being reliable].) Was the practice Duffy describes common on the continent as well as in England? If so, where may I read more concerning it as practiced in late medieval Germany? As ever, Frank Frank Morgret 15 Towering Hts -- #1206 St Catharines, Ontario CANADA L2T 3G7 [log in to unmask] %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%