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Like Umberto I think the domestic latin names are very useful, unless we are absolutely 100% certain of the originator I feel we should give the domestic a separate name, and anyway it is a useful way to distinguish between the two when we do know the origin. Of course this doesn't help if you are dealing with the earliest stages of domestication! ;) Sheila __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%