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On 27 03 00 Barbara wrote: > While I am willing to enter into full debate with Susan on the > matters she raises re animal research, I don't think psci-com > is the right forum to do it. Sorry to all psci-com users. I didn't realise that what we had to say regarding the public understanding of animal experimentation was of absolutely no interest to anyone else. Can you suggest a more appropriate forum? Will the Boyd Group be focusing on scientific facts or is it another ethics group? >I have therefore restricted myself to > a couple of brief comments below and I hope to continue this > dialogue with Susan by email. Still looking forward to hearing from you Barbara! > However, 95-100% agreement amongst scientists > and doctors that animal research is necessary for medical > progress does suggest they consider that it is also > scientifically valid. It may also suggest that they have a vested interest in animal experimentation or that their careers are more important than questioning the status quo? > Taking a couple of quotes, completely out of context, is not > the same as showing that there is any groundswell of support > for a particular point of view. Agreed. But if scientists themselves are doubting the efficacy of the 'animal model' in human medicine then it is probably at least worth listening to them. >I also wonder how this group hopes to >stop itself being physically attacked or intimidated by animal >rights extremists, I would rather look for ways of building bridges than continue to look for excuses not to. Regards, Susan Green [log in to unmask] Education for Medical Advancement (Understanding 'Animal Experimentation' in Medical Research) PO BOX 18653 LONDON NW3 4DG Tel/fax 020 7813 3670 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%