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What about Ally McCoist? Or Ally Fraser, the villain from Auf Wiedersehen Pet? I didn't know there were any girls called Ally... I hear there's some anorexic American on a comedy show but I haven't seen it. Anyway don't tell us which you are, AK, it's more fun not to know. and I teach at the University of Glamorgan, since someone asked. Cliquey.. oh hell, let's go for it. I think there are some folk on the list who have two distinct tones, depending on whether they're replying to something from someone in their in-group, in which case they sound very chummy, or an outsider, in which case they can, albeit unintentionally (I expect), sound lofty and dismissive. Headmasterly, perhaps. The post from R Lumsden which I'd initially overlooked was, actually, a prime example of that; if someone talked to me in that tone face to face I'd be tempted to smack them in the mouth. Anyway this is my last till God knows when, cos I'm clearing up work to go on holiday. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%