"here is a difference... between difference as in the difference between terms in a system of hierarchical oppositions and difference as in the difference between one term and the next in a series or network of terms." But for Derrida all meaning is fired by differance, and differance cannot exist except between oppositions. Since these oppositions are arbitrary - ie do not correspond with/cannot be tested against an extra-linguistic reality - they are held to be oppressive. So if you are arguing that the difference between our two differences is that the production of one does not involve the intervention of 'hierachical oppositions' then I think you are wrong. That's if Uncle Jacques is setting the rules. I prefer to play pool. Cheers Scott Hamilton X-Apparently-To: [log in to unmask] via web802.mail.yahoo.com X-Track: 6: 40 Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 10:54:02 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Subject: Differance with an "a" From: "domfox" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> X-Unsub: To leave, send text 'leave poetryetc' to [log in to unmask] Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: [log in to unmask] There is a difference - you can decide for yourself whether it makes all the difference, I am only insisting on the differences - between difference as in the difference between terms in a system of hierarchical oppositions and difference as in the difference between one term and the next in a series or network of terms. That is, there's a difference between the difference between red and green and the difference between black and white. Possibly this distinction is lost in an egalitarian rhetoric that moves too quickly to establish identities at the cost of a reduction of difference; although I think this is more often a reactionary reading of egalitarian politics, one which introduces the confusion between hierarchical subordination and plain human diversity for its own purposes ("damned emancipationists want to make us all the *same*! Can't they see that having slave-owners *and* slaves is part of life's rich tapestry?"). All the same, I can't pretend that egalitarians don't sometimes make this mistake all by themselves. It's why I want Dworkin *and* Derrida. I still think they can learn from each other. - Dom ===== "Why is it not possible for me to doubt that I have never been on the moon? And how could I try to doubt it? First and foremost, the supposition that perhaps I have been there would strike me as idle. Nothing would follow from it, nothing be explained by it. It would not tie in with anything in my life... Philosophical problems occur when language goes on holiday. We must not separate ideas from life, we must not be misled by the appearances of sentences: we must investigate the application of words in individual language-games" - Ludwig Wittgenstein __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%