>The Wendy Cope poem is: >a) a sequence of metrical & sociological clichés; >b) a sequence of metrical & sociological clichés parading as satire; > >c) both of the above. I may not think this was a great poem, but I did laugh, & ruefully at times. Yes, it is on some level both of the above, but on another level it's sort of a verse version of the kind of thing Christine Lavin does so well. My wife & her best friend will laugh with recognition & then even more wittily puncture my & my friend's more than occasional failures in precisely the manner indicated... I hate to admit it but... sometimes the mirror does reflect (speaking only from personal experience of course...) Doug {{Oh, I went to reply, which usually sends a note to poetryetc, but this time it would have gone direct to Joe Duemer; has something happened to the listserve?}} Douglas Barbour Department of English University of Alberta Edmonton Alberta Canada T6G 2E5 (h) [780] 436 3320 (b) [780] 492 0521 http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/dbhome.htm landscape: 1 (for thomas a. clark) alongthehorizongrewanunbrokenlineoftrees bpNichol %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%