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Dear Group, "now that traditional structures, ballads etc don't convince or interest us anymore." Can I get some further clarification on John Bennett's comment here? Do people feel that the presence of other modes of writing invalidates traditional forms? It's my feeling that becoming one mode among many can rejuvenate them -- for instance I found it quite entertaining to write a conventional Wordsworthian sonnet about visiting the grave of a Dadaist (Kurt Schwitters). I'm never very confident about throwing things out, I suppose, or disposing of one thing simply because we have another. Best, Bill H %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%