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not sure if you took the meaning of my rather-hastily bashed out mail in the way it was intended, but i was talking about the "notion" rather than the actuality. Which is obviously what these brisbane protesters believe in...(their fantasy over reality) ....i don't think such a place exists, but these guys obviously do. nothing like youthful hormone imbalance to make you paranoid and angry as hell. oh, and "the world" = the poetry world. i'm not insinuating that anybody believes poets actually have any power outside their own ivory towers. bob johnson "David Kennedy" <[log in to unmask]>@mailbase.ac.uk on 10/20/2000 05:44:08 PM Please respond to [log in to unmask] Sent by: [log in to unmask] To: <[log in to unmask]> cc: Subject: Re: Young People Against Poetry "i mean, i'm a young un, and i dislike the notion of fuddy-duddy stuffy old poetry hacks running the world from within their cigar-smoke filled gentlemen's clubs." Wow, nothing like a protest to produce some A-grade ersatz thinking. Does anyone know where this _world_ is located exactly? Can't say I recognise it. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%