But Dear Paul John is NOT making things up on the hoof; he has from the beginning laid out a few clear, simple guidelines, the ones he mentioned again in his recent post, & tried to run things via that mode (road). Most of us who have been here awhile have accepted them -- or left I guess. It's his list in that sense, ours in that we all still seem to ennoy the engagements here. I like it because of the international range... among other things... Douglas Barbour Department of English University of Alberta Edmonton Alberta Canada T6G 2E5 (h) [780] 436 3320 (b) [780] 492 0521 http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/dbhome.htm How, but thru a monstrous 'specialism', the so-called authority of erstwhile 'professionals', have we come to leave _breath_ out of images and _images_ out of breath, anyhow? Roy Kiyooka %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%