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I'm taking this back-channel (FIN!)-- Jacqueline Cousteau At 10:40 AM 7/25/00 +1000, you wrote: >Dear Candice > >I'm happy to make a sincere apology for my language >last night, though I can't see how I presumed to speak >for Candice Ward? My swearing was clearly directed >at one person's tiresomeness, and I was asking JVK >to ban her ip (as David Kennedy similarly asked), while >admitting my foul language could also cause JVK as >listowner concern about banning my ip. > >You <[log in to unmask]>wrote:- > > "as longtime, highly valued listee Joe Duemer was driven off >> by another (relatively new) listee's bullying, for example: an episode >> that still seems shameful to me and contrary to the spirit of poetryetc >> (as was)." >> >and I think Joe's reasons for leaving included EP and >her personae. Joe ([log in to unmask])wrote in his third >last post before unsubscribing:- > >"The entity currently posting as Sue claims postmodernism as a rationale >for her fakery, but it is without rigor & winds up being merely >sophomoric. She suffers from what one of my correspondents (who can take >credit for the diagnosis if she wants) termed MBP--multiple boring >personalities. She is neither original, entertaining, nor revolutionary. >No matter what name she employs she routinely tells other people how to >behave & her posts are never about a subject, but always about herself. >She has the narcissistic habit of not getting people's names right, >while lovingly playing variations on her own current pseudonym of >choice. > >The debate about identity on the list would be more interesting if we >had a more interesting case of pseudonymery. Perhaps someone who could >spell well enough to actually pass for someone other than Erminia. What >was once mildly amusing long ago became tiresome." > >The above summation of "pseudo-Sue" seems pretty >accurate on Joe's part. For myself, I'm going to opt >for quieter contributions through lurk mode, and will >mind my language more. I'll also watch for spam lest >the self elected warden of 'self-promoting posts' again >come down to rain on anything she deems a parade. >If anyone contributing lately has been 'self promoting', >the entity whose first language was Latin would seem >to have advertised more than anyone else. > >not speaking for Candice > >Hugh Tolhurst %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%