>From: "Chris Hayden" <[log in to unmask]> >suppose you are speaking of Athnes, Rome, The British Empire--what about >societies like Sparta, The Mongols, the Soviet Union? > Yes, there are exceptions and problems of definition. But let's look at some of the indisputably great ages of poetry like the ones you mention: Classical Athens: creation of the Athenian Empire. Early Hellenistic Greece: aftermath of Alexander's empire-building. Elizabethan/Jacobean England: beginnings of British Empire in Old and New worlds. Kipling said somewhere (can anyone remember the citation) that poetry never flourished but in a race of soldiers. I think there's something to that, though I'm not real happy about it. - But strength alone though of the Muses born Is like a fallen angel: trees uptorn, Darkness, and worms, and shrouds, and sepulchres Delight it; for it feeds upon the burrs And thorns of life; forgetting the great end Of poesy, that it should be a friend To soothe the cares and lift the thoughts of man. -- Keats ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%