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Across a couple of threads.... I think the engines of industry have continued to turn far more for Plath than Lowell. Letters/biographies that wear the Plath label go instantly into the front ranks of the press. Lowell's life ended in the back of a cab. In many ways it stayed there. Id like to think his poems continue to influence people. I agree with Mairead that Plath was intensely interested in things beyond herself/her pain. Although her measures of the physical world were often metaphors for depression and death, she could paint a landscape brilliantly. I'm thinking of Mary Oliver as I write this, whose celebrations of (often) rural landscapes and birds can be quite amazing. Oliver's is a quiet, meditative voice which can seem to work by osmosis. Plath's is wired, in the stirrups of your ear. This is all over the place, but so, this morning, am I. What was I saying? best Anthony %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%