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Douglas said: >I lean to Creeley's take on this, which is, approximately, 'if I knew what >I was going to say i wouldn't bother...' Ashbery said a similar-but-different thing once before: NYQ: You always want a poem to explore unknown territory? JA: Yes, that's what a poem is to me; I think every poem before it's written is something unknown and the poem that isn't wouldn't be worth writing. ... my feeling is that a poem that communicates something that is already known by the reader is not really communicating anything to him and in fact shows a lack of respect for him. (Interview New York Quarterly 1974) Andrew ---------------------------------------- Andrew Burke Copywriting [log in to unmask] Creative Writing http://www.bam.com.au/andrew/ Editing ----------------------------------------