But Hugh, Hugh even your quoteed poem doesn't necessarily move everyone to agree. And what does 'an aural poetry tradition' mean here? They don't 'sound' that interesting to me, certainly not as your own work, often posted here, does. Finally: > >PS Where the reviewer wrote:- 'Often they depend on >their subject matter to carry the poem's energy' - one is >mindful that even Philip Larkin thought subject matter >more important than technique. But who gives a damn what Larkin said. He also spent his whole life, bitterly & nastily, fighting against the 3 Ps of modernism: Picasso, Parker, and Pound. Sorry, but that betrays such a sad lack of wit as to make almost anything he says valueless... (although, almost despite myself, I have to confess he wrote a few real poems...) Douglas Barbour Department of English University of Alberta Edmonton Alberta Canada T6G 2E5 (h) [780] 436 3320 (b) [780] 492 0521 http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/dbhome.htm . . . by then I had knownfor many years that in a democracy it is frequently necessary to enter the polling booth holding one's nose. Bernard Levin