Hi Dick You are right...i am referring to that form of rationality that emerged from the enlightenment as an elemental discourse in the colonial project era and enacted almost continuously since in many opportunist forms...i hope you all will excuse me & my hobby horse...i do not know how much blame we could assign to the original fathers of this mutant child but i am firmly convinced that there is a flaw in its genesis, probably because is seems to have excluded so much from its ambit... including design? Norm -----Original Message----- From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Richard Buchanan Sent: Thursday, 31 August 2000 3:17 To: [log in to unmask]; Norm Sheehan Cc: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Design theory Norm, I enjoy reading your notes, but perhaps one should be cautious about generalizations such as 'Greek Rationality." It weakens the argument considerably. For one of many examples, the only thing that Socrates claims to know anything about is love. Apparently, he was a rather emotional guy--more than most philosophers today. By the way, his theory of design and interactive design was also quite passionate--more than most design theories today. Dick %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%