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Just a quick comment on process on this bboard. Steve, I know that Ellen's message was posted to the entire list--and that is why I responded to the list. Perhaps there is some reason that some of these messages are not getting to you. I'm probably missing some, too, of the private sort. Steve also introduces a very important theme, I think, when he discusses the dissertations he is directing in the area of interface. Excerpts from mail: 31-Aug-100 Re: Theory and originality by Stephen Scrivener@covent > However, most of my experience as a PhD supervisor has been gained through > the supervision of students undertaking human-computer interface design > projects. Although designing, these students didn't really see themselves > as 'designers', seeing themselves rather as engineers or technologists. In > Computer Science, many PhDs can be described as problem-solving and the > discipline has no difficulty understanding what it means to undertake a > problem-solving PhD, or what it looks like. > I won't comment further at this point, but the issue is extremely complex and equally important as we seek the nature of a design doctorate--rather than a doctorate that involves designers but is essentially located in another area of inquiry. I take Steve's observations as data toward a deep issue that we should discuss quite carefully. By the way, there is a parallel in professional design practice that concerns me deeply and on which I am spending considerable time. Perhaps you are aware of that issue, too. Dick Richard Buchanan Professor and Head School of Design Carnegie Mellon University %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%