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In a message dated 5/29/00 9:23:36 PM, [log in to unmask] writes: << Dear Roger, I agree with you. At the underground slate quarries I used to own quarrymen was the term used - & historically so as well - this also applies to the Welsh slate quarries. However, coal, copper & of course quite a few other minerals are open cast worked, so are they mines or quarries???!!!! I am sure this subject will go on(!), I have seen this matter raised many times! Regards, Bernard >> Let's see: We mine coal, salt, guano, potash, nitrates, sulphur, asphalt, limestone, peat and silica from pits, shafts and quarries. We also pump some of these out of the ground. They are neither concentrated or smelted or chemically altered before they are put to beneficial use. Now lets split hairs, if it is pumped out of the ground and refined before use is it mining or something else? Mason Coggin %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%