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MEDLIB-L October 16-17, 2000

Contents:
1.   Size of the World Wide Web--a new estimate
2.   Ref Q: Operating Room Design [Q with 1 answer; US based but makes a
     good point about books -SCP ]
3.   European version of MEDLINE - SUMMARIES 
4.  ?: Psychiatric hospitals in the UK [Question]
5. [Hearing loss] New Clinical Advisory on NLM Clinical Alerts Page
6. Evidence-Based Medicine web-based course [Friday deadline for
   subscribing] 
7. origin of quote "never trust anyone over 30" [for the 60s-nostalgic]

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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 15:40:36 -0500
From: "Kennedy, Joy" <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Size of the World Wide Web--a new estimate

I've used various figures in the past about the size of the internet and
was happy to see these estimates updated.  For those of you who might want
to quote the size of the web, you might want to save this.  I apologize to
those of you who got this announcement from OCLC already but thought it
worth sharing with all since so many of us do web training in our
institutions.

"In their annual review of the World Wide Web,
researchers at [OCLC's]
CLC have determined that the Web now contains
about 7 million unique sites; that the public
Web--sites that offer content that is freely
accessible by the general public--constitutes
about 40 percent of the total Web; and that
the Web continues to expand at a rapid pace,
but its rate of growth is diminishing over time.

According to the group's latest estimates, there
were 7.1 million unique web sites, a 50 percent
increase over the previous year's total of 4.7
million.  Although the number of web sites has
nearly tripled in size in the last two years,
year-to-year growth rates are declining, falling
from almost 80 percent between 1998 and 1999,
to only about 50 percent between 1999 and 2000."

More information can be found at http://wcp.oclc.org.
Joy
Joy Kennedy, MLS
Health Resource Library
Northwest Community Healthcare

800 W. Central Rd.
Arlington Heights, IL 60005-2392
Phone: 847/618-5180; FAX: 847/618-5189
email: [log in to unmask]
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From: Wendy Larson [log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 2:41 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Ref Q: Operating Room Design

Does anyone know of a good source for  information about  Operating Room
Design standards and trends?  I have thoroughly searched Medline and
Hospital and Health Literature Index and have probably pulled everything I
could from that.

Any other ideas?

Thanks so much!

Wendy Larson
Rice Memorial Hospital Library
301 Becker Ave. SW
Willmar, MN 56201
320-231-4248 phone
320-231-4463 fax
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 08:39:15 +1000
From: "Hadley, Alice" <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Ref Q: Operating Room Design

>From the American Society of Anesthesiologists (ASA) try their new book:

Operating Room Design Manual Written by people who have been through the
design and construction process, this manual was produced to aid the
anesthesiologist who is working on an operating room design team. All of
the basic aspects have been addressed, including planning, regulations and
design of the operating room suite, its support facilities, the
postanesthesia care unit, the labor and delivery suite, and outpatient
facilities.

Cost: Single copies available to members at no charge; additional copies
$25 each.
        <http://www.asahq.org/ProfInfo/PubsSvcsDescr.html>

Alice E. Hadley, MLS, AHIP
Medical Library     344-9250
US Naval Hospital, Guam
<[log in to unmask]>
<http://www.slis.ua.edu/cdlp/outreach/usnhguam>
President, Federal Library Section, MLA
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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 15:20:30 -0400
From: "Yared, Michael" <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: European version of MEDLINE - SUMMARIES

Thank you to all who replied. Here are the summaries:

* MEDLINE *IS* international in scope.  Always has been since it was
founded as the _Index Medicus_ in 1879.  At that point, European journals
far out-numbered American ones.

* It's EMBASE which is international in focus. According to the folks at
Elsevier, who produce EMBASE, there is only about a 40% overlap with
MEDLINE. EMBASE has a very strong emphasis on pharmaceuticals and medical
devices.

* There is no European "version" of MEDLINE. MEDLINE is produced by the
United States National Library of Medicine but it is international in
scope. It is free to anyone anywhere in the world on the World Wide Web.
MEDLINE, whether in Europe or Australia or Africa or South America is
still MEDLINE. Excerpta Medica is produced in Europe, Holland I believe,
by Elsiever. It is also international in focus but does not necessarily
cover all the same journals as does MEDLINE. There is some overlap in the
coverage. EM is not free.

* Excerpta Medica is the Elsevier equivalent of Index Medicus EMBASE is
the Elsevier equivalent of MEDLINE. They are approximately equal in size
and coverage. EMBASE's controlled vocabulary (subject headings) are better
for drugs than MeSH. Both are 70% English. Both cover US and European
journals very well. MEDLINE covers journals from South American and Japan
better than EMBASE. EMBASE covers journals from Africa and Asia better.
EMBASE is commercially produced and thus more expensive. It is available
through DIALOG, among other vendors.

* Don't quote me on any of this, but as I recall from an EMBASE training
session, Excerpta Medica was started by a group in the Netherlands, is
intended to be more "European" and "pharmacological" in focus than
MEDLINE--but it does overlap quite a bit with MEDLINE.

* EMBASE (published by Excerpta Medica) is considered to be the premier
European biomedical database. I must warn you, it is expensive.

* The European version of MEDLINE is EMBASE, it is international in focus.
There is quite some overlap with MEDLINE.

* My recollection of EM's advertising is their claim of something like 60%
non-MEDLINE and 60% English coverage...it may have changed since I last
looked some years ago, and I could certainly be wrong in my recollection.
Speaking strictly personally, I find EM very important for in-depth
research.

Mike Yared

-----Original Message-----
From: Yared, Michael [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 10:41 AM
Subject: European version of MEDLINE


        What is the European version of MEDLINE?
Is "Excerpta Medica" (EM) international in focus?
        Thanks.
        Mike Yared
        Library, IDA
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 16:57:58 CDT
From: Donna Berryman <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Psychiatric hospitals in the UK

Greetings, everyone!

I've had a question from a professor and I need some assistance, please.
Anyone know where I can find a list of psychiatric hospitals in the UK
having patients with long-term admissions?

Any assistance you can give me will be appreciated.

Donna Berryman, MLIS
Academic Resident Librarian
Library of the Health Sciences
University of Illinois at Chicago
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 08:38:46 +1000
From: "Hadley, Alice" <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: FW: [Hearing loss] New Clinical Advisory on NLM Clinical
Alerts Page

Apologies for cross posting - but in case you haven't seen it - and WHY
did NLM not tell MedLib-L directly rather than wait for members to
cross-post? Oh well, just another example of their poor marketing. - good
day, Alice Hadley, <[log in to unmask]>

-----Original Message-----
From: Graham, Elaine [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 5:47 AM
To: RMLRG7
Subject: New Clinical Advisory on NLM Clinical Alerts Page


The National Library of Medicine has added a new Clinical Advisory to the
clinical alerts page entitled "NIDCD/VA Clinical Trial Finding Can Benefit
Millions with Hearing Loss".  The advisory is available at
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/databases/alerts/hearing.html.

Elaine Graham, Associate Director
Pacific Southwest Regional Medical Library, NN/LM
UCLA Louise M. Darling Biomedical Library
12-077 Center for the Health Sciences
Box 951798, Los Angeles, CA  90095-1798
Voice: (310) 825-1984 or (800) 338-7657  Fax: (310) 825-5389
http://www.nnlm.nlm.nih.gov/psr/
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 15:28:11 -0500
From: Kathleen Gaydos Combs <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Evidence-Based Medicine web-based course

Sorry for any duplication.  I have sent this message to several email
discussion lists.

Evidence-Based Medicine and the Medical Librarian is being offered
again.

This web-based course has been taught to medical librarians from all over
the globe.  Don't miss your chance to join in on this learning
opportunity.

The course will be offered October 23 - December 18, 2000.  The
instructors have decided to open the registration up to even more
participants. So sign up today before the closing of registration on
Friday!

For more information about this course and to register for this course,
please see MLANET at https://www.mlanet.org/education/ebm_ce_oct00.html

___________________________________
October is National Medical Librarians Month!

Kathleen Gaydos Combs
Coordinator, Continuing Education and Career Services
Medical Library Association, The Association of Health Information
Professionals
Suite 1900, 65 East Wacker Place
Chicago, IL  60601-7298
Phone: 312/ 419-9094 x29
Fax:  312/ 419-8950
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For the most up to date information on continuing education, check
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Find us on the World Wide Web at www.mlanet.org

"MLA: The Association of Health Information Professionals"

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Date:Mon, 16 Oct 2000 12:48:36 -0400
From: Nancy Washburne <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: origin of quote "never trust anyone over 30"

Client seeking origin of "Never trust anyone over 30"--he disputes that
it originated with Bob Dylan...anyone have an older origin? Thanks Nancy
Washburne [log in to unmask]
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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 16:29:30 -0400
From: Steven S. Krompf <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: origin of quote "never trust anyone over 30"

Nancy,

I did a quick 'google' search and came up with this.

According to the website of Author Ralph Keyes at
www.ralphkeyes.com/niceguys/excerpt.htm

it was the not well known Jack Weinberg (p.11-13 on the site), a student
protester said it to a reporter at a University of California student
protest.

Steve Krompf
Librarian
Greater SE Community Hospital
Washington, DC
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09:03:34 -0400
From: Nancy Washburne <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: quote origin--never trust anyone over 30--summary

Had a dozen requests to post this trivia so:
sheer volume attributed it to Abbie Hoffman....some documentation:
Democratic Nat'l Convention 1968 ---Chicago Seven historical mention
at--http://www.dalton.org/ms/8th/students/Anti-War/historical.html----also--

http://www.geocities.com:0080/HotSprings/Villa/5280/

Several Google searchers reported it attributed quote to
..variously...Jerry Rubin,Tom Hayden and Jack Weinberg    these were of
the Free Speech Movement  which has a website at www.fsm.a.org

Jerry Rubin was associated closely with Abbie Hoffman, and sounds like
all of these in the 60's were probably originators of this particular
rendition of the thought which has likely been floating around since
neolithic times.  regards Nancy from Temple



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