Could I ask listmembers who were at the Poetry Society at this time about Bunting's role, as President of the Society? I am fascinated by the theme of patronage which is shot through his work, from the gilded hands of the Emperor in Villon to the patronless and dishevelled 'poet appointed' (darkly ironic phrase that) of Briggflatts. As President of the Society during some of these crucial years, he may have been involved in the kind of patronage he later posited in the speeches he gave for Northern Arts a few years later (again, he was President there - I recommend these pamphlets heartily - they go to the core of the state patronage dilemma). Put briefly, and only a little travestistically: just give artists the money. Go on, risk. See what happens a long time later. Expect to write most of it off. In one Northern Arts pamphlet he suggests he tried to persuade the membership to wean itself off state subsidy altogether, but resigned because the membership was unable to accept that. Does anyone have anything to add to his version of events? I should say I've just finished a piece on Bunting and patronage for a book of essays on him that Jim McGonigal and I are editing for publication a bit later on in the year: I'm almost hoping there's nothing more to say! "You wish." Richard %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%