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Following on from the Heaney hoohaa. No I'm not keeney on Heaney but he's got a nice manner and a luvverly face (oh mamma mia is that sexist) and I can't talk about Hugh's (is that spelt right?) because he's too complex for my Northern psyche to sum up in a late night email but for me the great dead Dylan Thomas (kripes) is surely a riposte to all those who accuse 'us' of being left/elitist/experimentalists (as if we actually all knew each other and all got on!) and not liking any poet who 'made it' ..was successful...etc I think it was David who pointed out that the 'rot' or obsequies (is that the word?) is within the poetry and the system just feeds of it. To an extent I agree. But surely Thomas disproves this thesis. The great tragedy is that he was taken up, digested and spewed out (O.K. he was a big boy and should have known better) but fame wos the game that kilt him. I haven't a clue how many. if any ,mailbasers love, like or hate Thomas and I very nicely don't give a damn. But we're none of us are dopes wishing our own undoing or cultural impoverishment. Bring on the kitsch. Geraldine Geraldine . %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%