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Beena Thomas writes: > Perhaps the 3 or 4 rare Arthurian > ballads in Child's collection can also be regarded as > "Made in England"? In the case of those not derived from Percy, I doubt it. "Kempy Kay" and "Kemp Owyne/Kempion" were collected in Scotland, as was "Young Waters" (look up the magnificent tune in Bronson for that one!). There are several late medieval, and post-medieval, Arthurian verse works set in North-West England, some of which are noted by Percy. Where they were actually composed is another matter, but they may have influenced composition of the Scots ballads - time-scale, genre and the characters involved might tend to support this view, though there are also Arthurian verse romances composed in Scotland based directly on French material. (There's a flourishing Arthurian tradition in Scottish Gaelic as well, which interacts with Irish material, but that's another story, ultimately more concerned with prose romance than with ballads.) Linda Gowans [log in to unmask] %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%