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Speaking as the proud owner of a beard (well almost, it's a goatee at the moment) I found it rather strange that a fellow beardie such as Richard should make a comment about beards without thinking about the consequences. After all, the general public often thinks that the archetypal male archivist is an unsocial beardie wearing a crumpled jacket with elbow patches, and is to be found alongside his cardigan-wearing female colleagues. As to the flogging issue, I expect Richard was suitably chastised by his other half when he got home last night. Gary Collins Unilever PLC