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Dear All: I really didn't know what I was letting myself in for when I offered a summary of the responses to anyone who wanted to mail me. I'm sending a summary to the list instead as I'm likely to get RSI if I sent replies individually! - Most people agreed that to learn SAS you really need to get hands on experience. Where access to the package could be guaranteed, a number of books were suggested as being helpful in getting such experience. The one most commonly suggested was: Ronald Cody and Jeffrey Smith's Applied Statistics and the SAS Programming language (Prentice-Hall ppb, 4th ed., 1997; ISBN 0137436424) A number of other books were also suggested and surprisingly enough virtually all of them had SAS in the title. - A number of people suggested going on a SAS run course. However, these are quite expensive, so there were also suggestions of using your old university's SAS facilities where possible or maybe registering for a university run course. - The suggestion I particularly liked (probably because it's the cheapest option!) was to use the SQL programming facility in MS Access. Apparently SQL bears some resemblence to SAS, so any SQL skills you pick up should be fairly easily transferrable. In addition, it is apparently fairly easy to pick up a C assmebler that will sit on Windows - if you can do a bit of C as well as SQL, you can more or less do SAS (so I'm told). - I picked up a good number of internet references: http://www.ilearn.to/ http://www.yorku.ca/dept/psych/lab/sas/ http://www.sas.com/bin/broker?_program=sps.setupabc.sas&_service=sps-prod http://ifasstat.ufl.edu/sta5106 http://www.herts.ac.uk/business/centres/course1.htm http://www.sas.com/pubs Hope you find this of some use! Cheers. Bryan.