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Chris, I didn't mean to lump anyone with anyone or draw parallels between foresters and agriculturists. I don't know enough about either group and I'm aware that the spectrum of opinions on the environment is huge in both groups. I only meant to share some tendencies I believe to have perceived in my limit personal experience. Cheers Volker >From: "Chris Perley" <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> >To: <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: RE: Environmental education and PP, was Re: Fwd: Nowadays we >idolizenature >Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 16:23:27 +1200 > > >Defending, as I must, we humble foresters (such as Aldo Leopold and Gifford >Pinchot - both increasingly ecocentric with every new gray hair) I would >NOT >put them in the same camp (as a group) as agriculturists. Foresters are >educated in ecology as the basis for silviculture (true - manipulative), >within a paradigm of sustainable yield and multiple objectives (including >social and ecological). Having had the displeasure of doing ag science at >the post grad level, my own experience supports the view that agriculture >didn't give a toss about society and the environment (or sustaining >anything >in particular - long term planning was considered to be 3 years!!!!!) - >rather a single objective of maximizing production was all the agricultural >rage. Generally forestry is both longer-term in its considerations, and >broader. > >Generalisations I know. I shall hunker down and await the return salvo. > >Chris Perley > >Actually, I have just read Wendell Berry's essay from A Continuous Harmony >called In Defense of Literacy - which is a propos to the discussion below >of >the broad & long term perspectives as compared with those narrower >perspectives of men in white coats seeing the world in a petrie dish - or a >spreadsheet. > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%