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Hmmm ?! (re postings by helbig and mittermayer) As a newcomer (and a colonial to boot), I'm a little reticent to open with opinions - more an observation. I work in a modelling (basic number-crunching) environment where we use Wintel because the hardware is (much) cheaper (grunt per buck) to supply to individuals in a large group. I agree that effort should be rewarded but there is more at issue here than a 'free' mentality. Sometimes when many people pay a lot of money they don't get very much for it - except the proliferation of a beta-testing mentality and a machine that falls over more often than a drunken sailor. Linux appears a more stable platform than the NT4 (and previously 95b) that I have been using. Lahey and ISS (Interactor/Winteractor - a UK firm) now supply some tools. I am looking forward to trying them. Is this not so? .....am I dilusional ? ..... have I wasted my money ? .....(is motherhood a good thing ?) Gary Hargraves Civil Engineer %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%