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Apropos of David Bircumshaw, I think there used to be a magazine actually called First Time edited by Josephine Austin which published people who'd never published before. And I think Outposts used to be very encouraging to new writers. You could probably find both listed in The Writers/Artists Year Book I mentioned. Good of David to stress the importance of checking out mags before sending work. And it isn't just a case of sending work by mistake to editors who aren't into what you do; it can also be a case of actually seeinf a mag and thinking 'Bloody hell! I don't want to be in there!' But, hey, we've all been there, making the same mistakes, not knowing who to ask...I wish this list had been around when I started writing! O yes almost forgot: welcome aboard Ben. Cheers David -----Original Message----- From: david bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> To: brit poets <[log in to unmask]> Date: 17 January 2000 17:53 Subject: re:What to do with my poetry >Ben > >apropos of David Kennedy, the little book by Peter Finch is called 'The >Poetry Business'. >the importance of checking out magazines before you submit cannot be >overstressed, there are some whose editors lean towards first time >'publishees' (ugh, what a word) for instance, 'iota', compiled by David >Halliday up at Chesterfield - at least it was last I heard. If you can find >a good workshop that will be likely to be far more valuable than initial >publication. > >David Bircumshaw > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%