Renee, you are very well grounded in your medical beliefs...first off where
do you think most of the pharmaceuticals come from...oil
dear...oil...carcinogenic.
The rest of your beliefs are grounded in fear. But keep thinking same very
intently, if you investigate to the end of these religious beliefs you may
come full circle and see the farce.
May i humbly submit that medicine scare tactics and flat earth thinking are
a parallel.
We can end this here...but first before you continue...study medicine at
length and see if you still agree. Become both an M.D. and say a Naturopath
w/ same education but conservative in approach.
Have you not seen the articles on the SUPERBUGS...some say antibiotic Tx has
been a serious medical error, but it does make a lot of money.
Trennoche
-----Original Message-----
From: Renee Cordrey <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <>
Date: Sunday, October 10, 1999 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: More on Vaccines
>Trennoche,
>
>Ok. This is my last posting on this topic, as we are going around in
circles.
>You've got a conspiracy theory so ingrained in your head, that you won't
>listen to anything else. First of all, wouldn't it be the
>biomedical/pharmaceutical industry, not petrochemical, if anything at all?
>
>As far as entering poisons and diseases into the body, the vaccinations
are
>generally dead viruses, so it cannot attack the body, but the body
recognized
>the shape, and is able to fight it in the future when encountered.
>
>Medicaid pays for vaccinations because they save thousands, if not millions
of
>lives. For every one child that may have a reaction to a vaccination,
there
>are countless others who may have had their lives saved, or at least
avoided a
>very miserable few weeks for child and parents. No medicine is perfect.
Some
>people react poorly to ES, joint mobs, aspirin, and heart bypass surgery.
>
>I agree with those "uneducated welfare moms." It is better to give the
child
>a vaccination than let them get sick, which they almost certainly would
from
>at least one of the diseases if it weren't for the vaccines. It might be
>considered child abuse to intentionally let your child get ill with
>life-threatening diseases. It would be like preventing an asthmatic child
>have inhalers because it was "poisoning his body."
>
>Recently, there has been much information in the media, medical literature,
>and I believe on this list, about children being exposed to germs in
>childhood, and developing a healthier immune system (a certain T cell is in
>greater quantity in children who have been exposed to environmental germs
than
>those who are too sheltered from germs, and are generally healthier
children).
> Vaccinations are an ideal way to create exposure to those microbes in a
safe
>way without creating disease.
>
>Well, I've said my final words. I think it's time to put this topic to
bed.
>We keep repeating ourselves, with you pointing out the few instances when
>there are reactions to vaccines, and my pointing out the larger picture.
>
>Renee
>
>Jay M. Trennoche wrote:
>>
>> Renee, 42 or 41; my friends daughter has had most so far at 16 months.
Many
>> people here are little educated and believe in their doctor like a god.
When
>> you ask a mother why they let their child have 40 odd something number of
>> poisons and diseases put into their child when there are known terrible
side
>> effects to some children, they say I do it because I am a good mother.
>>
>> Blind stupidity...besides, in Hawaii welfare pays for it. That's gov't
and
>> petro-chems working together for their mutual benefit.
>>
>> T.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Renee Cordrey <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask] <>
>> Date: Friday, October 08, 1999 7:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: Fw: More on Vaccines
>>
>> >Jay,
>> >
>> >What is Hawaii's policy?
>> >
>> >Renee
>> >
>> >Jay M. Trennoche wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Renee, California is more upscale than Hawaii...try check Hawaii.
>> >>
>> >> Trennoche
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Renee Cordrey <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> To: physio listserv <>
>> >> Date: Friday, October 08, 1999 4:08 AM
>> >> Subject: More on Vaccines
>> >>
>> >> >I heard from my friend (Mono County, California Public Health Nurse)
>> >> regarding
>> >> >vaccines. Here's excerpts from her e-mail:
>> >> >---------------
>> >> > The 1st set of shots is at 2 months of age at which they receive 4
>> >> >vaccinations, then at 4 & 6 months they receive the same as 2 months
(4
>> >> >shots) then at 1 year of age they get their 1st MMR (Measles Mumps &
>> >> Rubella)
>> >> >& Varicella (chickenpox) - so that equals 14 immunizations to be
>> >> up-to-date
>> >> >at 1 year of age.
>> >> >
>> >> >I think it is 1 out of 10,000 will get vaccine-associated polio from
the
>> >> >live-virus vacccine, so now the standard of practice is that the
polio
>> >> >immunization we now give is not a live virus vaccine, hence it's
ability
>> to
>> >> >not develop the disease in one which receives it.
>> >> > Flu vaccine is not routinely given to anyone under 18 unless
they
>> >> have
>> >> >an underlying chronic illness.
>> >> >--------------
>> >> >This may vary by state, but this goes for California.
>> >> >
>> >> >Renee
>> >> >
>> >
>
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