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Subject:

A perfect Turko-Kurdish Assimilation. Congratulations you are in the fashion: A LA MODE

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Nikos Gousgounis <[log in to unmask]>

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Nikos Gousgounis <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 12 May 1999 22:41:21 +0300

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Mustaffa Pacha Effendim

AMAN AMAN 


Sorry , but to describe yourself as a "Kurdish and from Turkey" is to my mind
as to say an Englishman from US. Funny is it not ? Do you have any national
cultural identity as a Kurd  or are you assimilated in the melting pot inherited
from Byzance to the Ottoman Empire ? Are you proud to not support your people
coming from the East in the very moment that you tend to the West ? Is that an
excuse to say that there are two millions of Kurds in Istanbul ? Guney  the
film 
director was one of them and we all liked  his films but he never was a
separatist
and yet he could speak about the oppression of your terrible dictature on the
peasants and Instanbulians too. But he left this world rather early. I should be
curious to see if he lived now would he support the Nato bombings ?
 
Are you so much satisfied with the Democracy offered to you by Madame Chiller 
and Mr. Gilmas ? They all live on american currency. Corruption is not just
on the
level of baktshich in Turkey, it's much more. A Kurd must be happy only if rich
and  prosperous in his carpet business  ?( most if not all the bazaar carpet
sellers 
are Kurds). I think that national identity is much more than assimilation under
financial terms. Anyway, actual Turkey is not the best of the places for
proclaiming
cosmopolitan ideas. There is too much fanatism in the air and Turkish prisons
were full of Kurds a long time before European governments started supporting
separatist Kurds as you say. 

And  the most important : Don't  forget that the first Kurdish separatist
movement 
financed by CIA was not in Turkey but in Iraq  in the early seventies when
the leader
was Mr Barzani and the enemy was the Baath  regime of Iraq ( pro-marxist ). 
Suddently after Barzani Kurds stopped attacking Saddam Hussein but turned
against
the Turkish state ? They must have lost their gratitude to what Mother
Turkey gave
to them in 1916 ( History is History ). You have not any idea of who
massacred more
than a million Armenians and took their lands in Kilikia , Erzerum,
Diaberkir, Urffa and
Van golu region to the Iranian border ?  Did Kurds loose their collective 
memory ? THAT WAS A GENOCIDE 1000 TIMES MORE IMPORTANT OF WHAT
IS HAPPENNING IN KOSSOVO. Do you have to tell something about your oriental
ancestors ' endeavours at the time ?  Some Armenians still remember. They
also live in
Istanbul as you but they remember. Maybe they were your classmates. Why
don't you 
ask them about THEIR genocide ?

My conclusion is that assimilation is presented as a smart solution in the
new century
of globalisation. It's no more an offence so I hope I will no more be named
as a racist 
by any smart democratic gentleman of this list  by calling you the final
product of a perfect 
ethnic assimilation in the lap of MULTINATIONAL Mother Turkey.:
THE MOTHER OF ALL NATIONS. ( the father ATA being always Kemal ATATURK)
It does not even matter if Kurds are Indo-europeans and Turks of Mongolian
stock. Who cares 
about these unimportant details ? 
 
Small remark : If you look at the touristic guides of National Turkish Bureau,
Hittites, Lydians, Ionians and Byzantines were all ancestors of Turks . Even
Homer
living in the Asian Minor coast was a pro-Turk named Omer and his poems were
first sung in Turkish oral dialectal language and then transcripted in
literate Greek. 
Now are you satisfied ? Maybe Homer was a Yuruk Turk. Sorry for calling Homer
still in Yunanistan ( Greece-Hellas) after his initial HELLENIC name : OMIROS.

If I was a nationalist I should proclaim Agia Sophia and all the lost lands
where Greek 
was spoken for 3000 years, but I don't give a damn. I am glad that Greece kept
its language and religion under Ottoman rule for 400 years otherwise that
could be 
impossible under Occidental European Rule. We owe our language survival to the 
laziness of the Turks authorities,that's right. Also we learned how to cook
pastrouma
moussaka, souvlakia, tas kebab and imam baildi, we learned how to bath in hamams
and how to dance carcilama and zeibec and how to appreciate original
oriental hashich.  

AFFERIM EFFENDIM

AND YET YOU DID NOT INFORM US ABOUT YOUR VIEWS ON 
NATO SMART BOMBS. All you can do so easily is to characterise others as racists.
Is that the only scientific task of professional well-paid sociologists ?
Thanks a lot. 
Except id sociology is useful to evaporate History and to pronounce noble words
about human rights etc, while some strong Goliaths ruin some small Davids.

Sorry, I forgot to apologise to all respectable members of this EUROPEAN list 
who feel that all this Oriental stuff is out of their OCCIDENTAL RATIONAL
concerns.


Nikos, from the South Eastern coast of EUROPE ( one more Greek word, sorry).



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