Dear all,
Although I agree with the broad thrust of Caroline Sullivan's
contribution it reflects the technocentricity of many
development debates in tourism (perpetrated not least by a
vast army of consultants who work closely with, or at the
very least often share the presuppositions of
corporate-capitalist driven tourism; foreign or local, I
would add).
What we need is a fully-fledged engagement with the
cultural and ideological frameworks within which
diverse tourism developments are pursued. Hence technical
arguments regading local inputs, positive benefits etc..all
need to be examined in relation to the development
aspirations implicit within them.
Whilst quantitative economic benefits cannot be dismissed,
the hegemony of consumerist capitalism still pervades
development right down to the micro-level. Despite the
existence of non-capitalist formations, all communities in
some way are forced to adapt/respond to its logic. It is
worth bearing in mind that the total combined indebtedness of
the 'third world' is over US$2 trillion - this alone
reinforces a logic of export-led growth fuelled 'development'
which leaves little room for alternatives.
So much for brevity!
Raoul Bianchi
University of North London, UK
On Wed, 05 May 1999 13:18:11 +0100 Dr neil Carr
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >From: Institute of hydrology <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: 'Dr neil Carr' <[log in to unmask]>
> >Subject: RE: Tourism and development
> >Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 12:31:36 +-100
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >
> >
> >
> >On the question of the relationship between tourism and development,
> >there is no doubt that tourist expenditure is a mechanism which often
> >represents a voluntary transfer of funds from rich to poor countries, and
> >as such can have a positive effect on the economies of the recipient
> >countries. In order for the net effect to be positive however, it is vital
> >that tourism multipliers be maximised by ensuring that inputs into the
> >tourist industry are, as far as possible, produced domestically. This
> >should be one of the major underpinnings of the concept of ecotourism,
> >where the eco bit includes not only the environment, but the society, and
> >the economy. In relation to sustainable development, this perhaps implies
> >a low volume high value philosophy, and as such is likely to have a less
> >socially damaging impact than the mass tourism seen in such places as
> >Barbados or Bali.
> >
> >Caroline Sullivan,
> >Environmental and Resource Economist,
> >Institute of Hydrology,
> >Wallingford, Oxfordshire.
> >
> >----------
> >From: Dr neil Carr[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> >Sent: 05 May 1999 11:45
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Tourism
> >
> >The debate continues!
> >
> >
> >>X-Sender: [log in to unmask]
> >>Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 11:18:19 +0100
> >>Subject: Re: Tourism
> >>From: Graham Gardner <[log in to unmask]>
> >>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>X-Unsub: To leave, send text 'leave crit-geog-forum' to
> >>[log in to unmask]
> >>Reply-To: Graham Gardner <[log in to unmask]>
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> >>Precedence: list
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> >>
> >>At 06:00 PM 5/4/99 +0100, you wrote:
> >>>I like this succinct debate. My contribution is:
> >>>
> >>>Surely the worst thing is 'development tourism'. What can we do to put a
> >>>stop to that?
> >>>>Mike Kesby
> >>
> >>If you mean it literally, I could suggest several rather inviting ways...!
> >>But as a serious response, I would suggest a problematising of what the
> >>term 'development' (including 'sustainable development) actually means.
> >>What do different socio-economic and cultural groups mean by the term?
> >>
> >>In response to an earlier response (sorry, I forget who), which talked
> >>about sustainablity in terms of the environment - yes, I meant in those
> >>terms, but also in terms of cultural identity and quality of life (the two,
> >>of course, are linked).
> >>
> >>Graham Gardner
> >>IGES University of Wales, Aberystwyth
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>From: David Crouch <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>>To: Graham Gardner <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>>Cc: [log in to unmask]
> >>>>Well, either claim is absurdly reductionist and deserves investigaiton.
> >>>
> >>>>Tourism means lots of things, in any stage of `development`, and so can
> >>>>have lots of different effects. Sustainability is equally slippery, but
> >>>>can be of positive value in the ways to which you are alluding.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>.>>very best,
> >>>
> >>>>Prof David Crouch, Anglia Univ
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>On Tue, 04 May 1999 15:34:53 +0100 Graham Gardner <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>.>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Neither do I - in fact, I'd argue that tourism was a major OBSTACLE to
> >>>> development (that is, development defined apart from the requirements of
> >>>> tourists and capital...)
> >>>>
> >>>> Graham Gardner
> >>>> IGES University of Wales, Aberystwyth
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> At 05:12 PM 5/1/99 +0200, you wrote:
> >>>> >In reply to this very brief statement by Robert Morgan, my answer is
> >>that I
> >>>> >do not agree.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Michael Davie
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>From: "Robert Morgan" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>> >>To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>> >>X-Unsub: To leave, send text 'leave crit-geog-forum' to
> >>>> >>[log in to unmask]
> >>>> >>Sender: [log in to unmask]
> >>>> >>Precedence: list
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>The tourism is the only way to development of the third world.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@@*@*@*
> >>>> >Michael F. DAVIE [log in to unmask]
> >>>> >Professeur
> >>>> >Directeur du DEA "Espaces, Societes et Villes dans le Monde Arabe"
> >>>> >UMR 6592 URBAMA (Urbanisation dans le Monde Arabe)
> >>>> >Universite Francois-Rabelais
> >>>> >23 rue de la Loire, B.P. 7521, 37075 Tours Cedex 2 (France)
> >>>> >Tel : (+33) 02 47 36 84 67 Fax : (+33) 02 47 36 84 71
> >>>> >*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@@*@*@*
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >Dr Neil Carr
> >Dept. of Business and Finance
> >University of Hertfordshire
> >Mangrove Road
> >Hertford
> >Hertfordshire
> >England
> >SG13 8QF
> >Tel. (01707) 285511
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> >email: [log in to unmask]
> >
>
> Dr Neil Carr
> Dept. of Business and Finance
> University of Hertfordshire
> Mangrove Road
> Hertford
> Hertfordshire
> England
> SG13 8QF
> Tel. (01707) 285511
> Fax. (01707) 285455
> email: [log in to unmask]
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Tourism, Culture and Development
Centre for Leisure and Tourism Studies
University of North London
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