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Re: Crash with segmentation violation

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Andrew Holmes <[log in to unmask]>

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Andrew Holmes <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 02 Dec 1999 14:46:33 +0000

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Dear Johann,

With many sessions, the estimation stage of SPM99b will make session 
specific F-contrasts in the xCon contrast definition structure. Each 
contrast definition contains the corresponding partitioning of the design 
matrix. So, for large designs with many sessions, you end up with a lot of 
F-contrasts, each of which contains (much of) the design matrix. Thie 
results in a huge xCon.mat file, which is what your wee SPARC-5 had trouble 
saving.

As a temporary fix, you can stop SPM99b from generating these default 
session specific F-contrasts by "hacking" the SPMcfg.mat file. At the end 
of the fMRI design setup, choose to estimate "later". Then, type the 
following in the Matlab command window:

 >> clear
 >> load SPMcfg
 >> F_iX0 = F_iX0(1).iX0
 >> %-If this generates an error then you don't have session
 >> % specific F-contrasts
 >> save SPMcfg

You can then proceed to estimate the model, using the "Estimate" button on 
the SPM Menu window, and selecting the SPMcfg.mat file in the present 
working directory.

The final release of SPM99 will ask whether session specific F-contrasts 
should be generated, and stores the implied partitioning in a more 
efficient manner (thanks to JB).

Hope this helps,

-andrew

At 15:20 05/11/99 +0100, Johann P.Kuhtz wrote:
| I consistently experienced a crash when estimating a specified
| model: a large design matrix for fMRI with spm99b, using matlab
| 5.3. The crash happens when saving results. In the design matrix I
| have 48 sessions (8 subjects, 6 sessions per person) with 104
| scans per session (total 4992 scans). Each session contains 13
| epochs: 6 epochs of activation and 7 epochs of rest (1 epoch is 40
| sec long, = 8 scans, TR=5s). SOA is fixed. I modeled 3 conditions
| of a motor paradigm, and 6 motion parameters as confounds (user
| specified regressors, entering the "realignment-params.txt" -files
| for each session with spm_load). I use a box-car convolved with
| hrf, and scaling for global normalization. Highpass filter was set
| at 480 sec cutoff freq.
|
| The messages in the matlab window are as follows:
|
| SPM 99b: spm_spm (v2.28.1.1)
| Initialising design space	:			...done
| Output images			:			...initialised
| Plane 34/34, plank 48/48	: 			...done
| Design parameters		:			...done
| Smoothness parameters	:			...done
| Saving results		:			...writing   (so far all is ok)
|  	
| [0 (459 0)]: segv (11). code 4, pc 0xda8776c, vaddr 0xff65063ff8, alt-sp
| 0x13037a20
|
| ??? error while evaluating uicontrol Callback
| >> Unable to create crash dump log file
| ---------------------------------------------------------------
| Segmentation violation detected at Thu Nov 4 21:23:24 1999
| ---------------------------------------------------------------
|
| Configuration:
| Matlab version: 5.3.0.10183 (R11)
| Operating system: IRIX64 6.5 11051731 IP27
| Window system: Sun Microsystems, Inc. (3600), display
| skalleper.child.ks.se:0.0
| Current Visual: 0x22 (class 3, depth 8)
|
| Please follow these steps .... 1. Send us this crash report ... (now some
| instructions of matlab appear)
|
| Error in ==> /usr/local/spm99b/spm_spm.m
| On line 975 ==> save ('xCon.mat', 'xCon')
|
| Error in ==> /usr/local/spm99b/spm_fmri_spm_ui.m
| On line 551 ==> spm_spm(VY,xX,xM,F_iX0,Sess,xsDes)
|
| So far this crash report. I use a SunSparc station 5. When I check memory
| by typing "limit" I get the information
|
| cputime	unlimited
| filesize	unlimited
| datasize	unlimited
| stacksize	2000000 kbytes
| coredumpsize	0 kbytes
| memoryuse	3750000 kbytes
| vmemoryuse	unlimited
| descriptors	200
| threads	1024
|
| and by typing "swap -s" I get
| total: 0.00k allocated + 206.23 add'l reserved = 206.23m bytes used,
| 10.27g bytes available
|
| I would be grateful for any suggestion how to correct this problem.


+ - Dr Andrew Holmes			mailto:[log in to unmask]
| Robertson Centre for Biostatistics 	(  ,) / _)(  ,)
| Boyd Orr Building, University Ave.,	 )  \( (_  ) ,\
| Glasgow. G12 8QQ  Scotland, UK.    	(_)\_)\__)(___/
+ -					http://www.rcb.gla.ac.uk/



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