Dear Patricia,
Thank you for your comments, it is re-assuring to hear
others share these views from near and afar.
I would be interested in any future comments or info
pertaining to this area of concern and interest.
Keep the faith and the love
NIGEL
--- Patricia Burkhardt <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Dear Nigel,
> This is my first contribution to the list serve and
> your comments below are
> responsible. You've touched on an issue near and
> dear to me. Although I
> feel knowledge is good for intellegent creatures
> (and we are supposed to be
> that) I do agree that the appoach to care
> essentially influences how women
> perceive themselves and the process of childbearing
> they are engaged in.
> Our constant search for pathology, ie, is the baby
> growing well enough? is
> your blood pressure staying normal? have you gained
> too much weight? have
> you gained enough weight? etc, etc, etc clearly
> conveys the expectation
> that something will go wrong. And guess what? It
> does, because most
> people live up to expectations. I would love to see
> the language and
> approach created that builds on the expectation of
> normal rather than of
> abnormal. How do we do that and who would be
> interested in collaborating
> in this?
>
> Just by way of introduction, I direct the midwifery
> education program at
> New York University. It is for nurses, at present.
> The program is
> relatively new, graduated the first class in 1997.
> We are starting to
> develop our research agenda. This issue of a
> wellness approach to
> pregnancy and birth rather than a pathology approach
> is one that we are
> exploring.
>
> Pat
> >>--- CATHY AND NIGEL BOCK AND DUNCAN
> >><[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dera all,
> >>>
> >>> Inview of the fact that we have been abscent
> from
> >>> these pages for a wee while I would like to
> raise an
> >>> issue that has toyd with my psyche for such a
> long
> >>> time.
> >>>
> >>> The first time I remember thinking of this
> subject
> >>> was
> >>> whilst as a student working with the fantastic
> >>> midwife
> >>> Jane Butler (Brighton, England) As was routine
> in
> >>> my
> >>> experiences with her we talked long and
> >>> philosophical
> >>> as well as concerning ourselves with the largely
> in
> >>> my
> >>> view peripheral (all be it necessary) scientific
> >>> aspects of midwifery.
> >>>
> >>> Somewhere along the course of the conversation I
> >>> declared that the science and understanding of
> birth
> >>> and reproduction is a detriment to uncomplicated
> >>> birthing. The rational for these seeming
> outrageous
> >>> statement is that our being is that, being and
> >>> reacting to our instincts and having no useless
> fear
> >>> of our natural selves. I saw and indeed still
> see
> >>> that
> >>> the greatest challange to midwives is
> re-instilling
> >>> the belief and sense of a womans own birthing
> >>> ability
> >>> and the normality of normal.
> >>>
> >>> I fear I am not being very clear........
> >>>
> >>> Much to my colleagues annoyance I declare to all
> who
> >>> are poised cautiously caring for a pregnant or
> >>> birthing woman that they should look for what
> proves
> >>> the normal rather than as is all to common
> looking
> >>> for
> >>> what proves the abnormal.
> >>>
> >>> I hope that both Cathy and I will be able to be
> just
> >>> parents rather than analytical voyeurs on mother
> >>> nature herself!
> >>>
> >>> Please feel free to share comments and views.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you to all who shared in the joy of our
> news.
> >>>
> >>> In love and Peace
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> NIGEL
> >>>
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> >>> at
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> and
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> >>NIGEL,
> >>
> >>Just wanted to sy hello, do you remember me?
> Juliette
> >>Langley at Brighton. Jane is a lovely person and
> >>Midwife and now has taken the place of fiona
> >>Sommerville as Head of Women and Childrens Health,
> >>she's always been going places. I admire her
> greatly.
> >>Good to see a familiar name on the web. Juliette
> >>>
> >>
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