JiscMail Logo
Email discussion lists for the UK Education and Research communities

Help for LIS-UKEIG Archives


LIS-UKEIG Archives

LIS-UKEIG Archives


LIS-UKEIG@JISCMAIL.AC.UK


View:

Message:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Topic:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Author:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

Font:

Proportional Font

LISTSERV Archives

LISTSERV Archives

LIS-UKEIG Home

LIS-UKEIG Home

LIS-UKEIG  1999

LIS-UKEIG 1999

Options

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Log In

Log In

Get Password

Get Password

Subject:

LA-IIS Consultative Document: UKOLUG's Initial Response

From:

[log in to unmask] (Karen Blakeman)

Reply-To:

[log in to unmask]

Date:

Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:14 +0000 (GMT)

Content-Type:

text/plain

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

text/plain (128 lines)

LA-IIS Consultative Document: UKOLUG's Initial Response

The UKOLUG committee had hoped to have been able, by now, to have 
presented UKOLUG members with a document summarising the options 
available to us if the IIS merges with the LA. We had also intended 
to include recommendations on what we saw as the best way forward for 
UKOLUG.  However, it quickly became apparent that the consultative 
document contained insufficient information on the alternatives open 
to us. 

The committee has responded to the document with some comment but 
also with many questions that must be answered before we can go any 
further.  We have tried to incorporate the comments and views that we 
have received from UKOLUG members into the letter, the text of which 
is reproduced below. 

May we remind you that if you wish to comment on the Consultative 
Document yourself, you must do so by March 15th. A copy of the 
document, together with the relevant addresses for responses, is 
available on the IIS Web Site (http://www.iis.org.uk/). 

-----------------------------------------
"Re: Our Professional Future. A Proposal for a new organisation for 
the library and information profession.

The UKOLUG Management Committee has now had time to study the 
consultative document produced by the LA, and in particular the 
sections that relate to IIS SIGs (page 8). We have several concerns 
about the document in general and the way in which it was 
distributed, but at this stage we wish to concentrate on what is 
being suggested as the way forward for Special Interest Groups 
(SIGs). 

As a general point, and before I move on to the specific questions 
about the proposed SIGs/OiLs, it seems apparent that - despite talk 
of unification, a "new single association", a "new name for a 
putative new association" and the implied equal standing of the two 
existing associations - the discussion document simply allows for the 
assimilation of the IIS by the LA.  The structure, form and 
mechanisms of the LA have remained inviolate with little or no 
acceptance of the ideas put forward by the IIS.

Added to this, we are aware that there is some measure of discontent 
among existing LA SIGs with the capitation system, which leaves them 
under funded (for example, the Multimedia and IT Groups) and unable 
to continue the production of print newsletters and journals.

UKOLUG would like to suggest that a third option exists in which SIGs 
of the new organisation would be run along the lines of the existing 
IIS Groups. This form of SIG would fall midway between an LA SIG and 
an OiL and offer SIGs autonomy of management while maintaining close 
links with the parent organisation.

UKOLUG would like this third option brought into the discussions.

Moving on to the existing proposals, we have many questions about the 
possible future position of SIGs within the new body and these are as 
follows:

1. Is the level of detail that is given in the consultative document 
regarding SIGs and OiLs really all that has been decided at this 
stage? If so, there is insufficient information on which to base a 
decision on how to advise our (UKOLUG) members on the best way 
forward. In fact it is impossible to make any informed decision on 
whether UKOLUG should become a SIG or an OiL
 
2. There is no information whatsoever on mechanisms or procedures for 
transition to SIG or OiL under the new association. Under the 
paragraph on SIGs it merely states that existing SIGs could submit a 
"proposal" to become a SIG under the new organisation. Are we to take 
it that we devise our own procedure and mechanism?

In the paragraph on the proposed new SIGs: 

3. What exactly does "Fully integrated in the new organisation" mean?

i) Will our finances/budget/bank accounts be "integrated" into the 
new organisation?
ii) Will administration and recruitment of members be taken over by 
the new organisation?
iii) Will the entire running of the group be taken over by the parent 
body?
iv) Will the SIGs be free to decide on publications, meetings, etc.
v) How will meetings and publications be managed and organised? By 
the SIG or the parent body?
vi) Will the SIGs be able to comment or respond independently to, for 
example, government papers or information vendor policy changes and 
activities?

4. What would the annual capitation fee be?

On OiLs :

5. Will the OiLs be totally separate and independent bodies?
 
6. What would be a "significant proportion of their members in 
membership of the new organisation"?
 
7. What would happen if the proportion of members in membership of 
the new organisation fell below the "significant" level after the 
group had become an OiL?
 
8. No mention has been made of offering reduced membership fees to 
those who are members of the new professional association. Would it 
be up to the OiL to decide whether or not to offer this?  Would this 
be permitted?

Overall, the UKOLUG committee is very disappointed with the document 
and the lack of detailed thought on the future of the IIS SIGs. As we 
are in the process of putting together, for our members, a document 
that gives details of the options open to us and the implications of 
those options, we would appreciate a speedy response to the questions 
and issues that we have raised above. 

Karen Blakeman
UKOLUG Chair"



-------------------------------
Karen Blakeman, UKOLUG Chair 
RBA Information Services, 
Tel: 0118 9472256, Fax: 0870 056 8547, Mobile: 0860 785716
E-Mail: [log in to unmask], http://www.rba.co.uk/


%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

Top of Message | Previous Page | Permalink

JiscMail Tools


RSS Feeds and Sharing


Advanced Options


Archives

April 2024
March 2024
February 2024
January 2024
December 2023
November 2023
October 2023
September 2023
August 2023
July 2023
June 2023
May 2023
April 2023
March 2023
February 2023
January 2023
December 2022
November 2022
October 2022
September 2022
August 2022
July 2022
June 2022
May 2022
April 2022
March 2022
February 2022
January 2022
December 2021
November 2021
October 2021
September 2021
August 2021
July 2021
June 2021
May 2021
April 2021
March 2021
February 2021
January 2021
December 2020
November 2020
October 2020
September 2020
August 2020
July 2020
June 2020
May 2020
April 2020
March 2020
February 2020
January 2020
December 2019
November 2019
October 2019
September 2019
August 2019
July 2019
June 2019
May 2019
April 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
December 2018
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
2006
2005
2004
2003
2002
2001
2000
1999
1998


JiscMail is a Jisc service.

View our service policies at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ and Jisc's privacy policy at https://www.jisc.ac.uk/website/privacy-notice

For help and support help@jisc.ac.uk

Secured by F-Secure Anti-Virus CataList Email List Search Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager