Blimey, talk about being defensive ;-)

When I asked whether people had considered the IIS I wasn't suggesting it was 
easier, rather that it might be more APPROPRIATE for some. But if it I said it 
WAS easier then that's not necessarily bad. Surely it would in fact be 
complimentary, showing that actual professional competencies/experiences of a 
modern Library/Info worker are sometimes more accurately reflected in the 
requirements of the IIS than of the LA?!  "Easier" might mean it's "right" for 
you....

I have looked at the forms and seen the criteria necessary. It just seemed to me 
that some of the criteria might be more appropriate for some of the people on 
this list who would seem to be having difficulty fitting their professional 
experiences into the LA's proforma headings or subjects to be covered by a PDR. 

Another consideration (in view of recent discussion) may be that ATM it IS 
(considerably) cheaper to be a Corporate Member of the IIS....

Lesha


On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:54:49 +0100 [log in to unmask] 
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> 
> 
> It appears to me that this discussion is now suggesting entry via the back door
> (i.e. the IIS) prior to the proposed LA/IIS merger.  This rather suggests that
> corporate membership of the IIS is an easy option, which in turn implies that
> the IIS is a less respectable organisation.  As a corporate Member of the IIS I
> find this an insult to the Institute and its members.  (I apologise if this is
> not a correct assessment of earlier comments, but it is my opinion.)
> 
> Becoming a corporate Member of the IIS is not simply a matter of waiting a few
> years then filling out a form.  One must be able to demonstrate (by an
> unspecified means - e.g. report, resume, articles, whatever) that one has
> acquired the appropriate degree of professional competence (which is broadly
> defined by the Criteria for Information Science).  OK, admittedly it may be a
> little easier to put together the appropriate document for IIS approval than it
> is to write the LA's PDR, but that completely ignores one fundamental point:
> Joining either organisation, or any similar professional organisation
> (accountancy, law, chemical engineering, etc.) at that level, is intended to
> demonstrate that one has reached a more senior level of competence, management,
> maturity, etc., so that one can *justifiably* say 'I'm a Chartered
> Engineer/solicitor/accountant/etc.' and that one *deserves* to join the ranks of
> other Chartered, etc. members.  It is true that some professions have statutory
> requirements and many are a great deal harder to get into at the Associateship
> level.  If membership does *not* demonstrate this appropriate higher achievement
> (which is what some of you are suggesting), that is another matter and a good
> issue to develop.  However, simply finding an easy institute to join to get some
> letters after one's name is UNETHICAL.  It does not do the organisation any
> good, it perpetuates negative images of that profession to the outside world,
> insults deserving members, and eventually leads to detrimental influences on the
> membership as a whole.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Karen Jarratt=LON" <[log in to unmask]> on 15/09/99 11:44:24
> 
> Please respond to [log in to unmask]
> 
> To:   "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
> cc:    (bcc: Jonathan Gordon-Till/ACG/UK/AON)
> Subject:  RE: chartering - is it worth it?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I have to admit I was considering this.  I'm already an affiliate member of
> IIS and in another year will have the necessary years of experience to
> become a full corporate member (which will become equivalent of chartered in
> the new organisation) and at the rate I'm going it will take me at least
> that long to finish my PDR.  However, I've personally decided that as the
> new organisation won't exist until 2002 (I think this was the date in the
> accompanying literature with the LAR), its not really a feasible option.  I
> might as well have both sets of letters after my name! :)
> 
> Karen
> 
> Karen Jarratt
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:   Lesha Fossey [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent:   Wednesday, September 15, 1999 10:35 AM
> > To:     [log in to unmask]
> > Subject:     chartering - is it worth it?
> >
> > I don't know, I spend 2 days away from work and come back to find a REALLY
> >
> > interesting discussion going on ;-)
> >
> > Has anyone considered gaining membership of the IIS instead of writing a
> > PDR
> > for the LA, in view of the fact that when the two merge the two
> > qualifications
> > will become the same qualification in the new organisation?
> >
> > Lesha
> >
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