JiscMail Logo
Email discussion lists for the UK Education and Research communities

Help for COMP-FORTRAN-90 Archives


COMP-FORTRAN-90 Archives

COMP-FORTRAN-90 Archives


COMP-FORTRAN-90@JISCMAIL.AC.UK


View:

Message:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Topic:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Author:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

Font:

Proportional Font

LISTSERV Archives

LISTSERV Archives

COMP-FORTRAN-90 Home

COMP-FORTRAN-90 Home

COMP-FORTRAN-90  1999

COMP-FORTRAN-90 1999

Options

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Log In

Log In

Get Password

Get Password

Subject:

ASSIGN

From:

Richard Maine <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Richard Maine <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 21 May 1999 09:04:19 -0700 (PDT)

Content-Type:

text/plain

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

text/plain (71 lines)

Anthony Stone writes:

 >       n=n+1; GOTO segment(list(n))
 > I don't think that this is at all inscrutable.

It may not be inscutable, but neither is it legal.  And I wouldn't
count on it working.  ASSIGN had quite a few quirks - it was not as
simple a thing to deal with as you might think on the surface.

Imagine systems where an address doesn't fit in the size of a
default integer.  That's one of those situations that might once
have been met with comments like "lets stick to realistic
systems".  But such systems are now quite common and becomming
more so.

Imagine compilers handling this by actually having two separate
storage areas for any integer variable used in an ASSIGN.  One area
for when the variable is used as a numeric integer, and another,
differently sized, area for when the variable is used as an ASSIGN'ed
label.  This happens in real compilers.  Its implications are a mess.

The f77 standard says that the ONLY thing that you can ASSIGN to
is a "variable name".  That specifically does not include an
array element.  Considering the business that some compilers need
to do with keeping track of the "shadow variable" (the extra
storage location that's a different size from default integers),
I wouldn't count on the array case being accepted as an extension.
I've never tried it (rarely used ASSIGN, even the legal forms,
and certainly not at all in the last 20 years or so) , so I don't
know for sure, but I wouldn't count on it.

A CASE statement would be the most likely replacement, but I'm not
prepared to go into details of specifics at the moment.  Note that
CASE is designed to be efficiently implementable (as something like a
table lookup instead of a sequential search).

Oh yes, rereading your post, I see a bunch of other things that are
likely problematic with it in terms of ASSIGN.  As I mentioned
earlier, ASSIGN is really quirky.  You can't pass variables that
have been assigned to from one subroutine to another and expect
anything to work.  (The compiler wouldn't know that you really wanted
to pass the "shadow variable" instead of the numeric one).  You
can't even do

  assign 1000 to i
  j = i

Talking about the reasons for committee decisions is always a risky
business.  But I'd venture the guess that the obsolescence of ASSIGN
had more to do with its quirks than with notions of "structured
programming" (although the later might have well also been an
influence).  ASSIGN as defined in f77 is really quite a "hack".
It requires a lot of trickery to make work at all (things like the
shadow variable stuff), and it has very non-intuitive consequences.
I'd personally think that if one wanted to design something that
worked as much like it as reasonable, but got rid of the quirks,
you'd want a separate data type for the ASSIGNED variables instead
of just using integers.  Its the overloading of the use of INTEGER
that causes the really ugly quirks.  Not that I think such a data
type would "sell" at the moment...and not that I'd probably be in
favor of it myself...but that I think is the most problematic issue
with ASSIGN.

-- 
Richard Maine
[log in to unmask]



%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

Top of Message | Previous Page | Permalink

JiscMail Tools


RSS Feeds and Sharing


Advanced Options


Archives

December 2023
February 2023
November 2022
September 2022
February 2022
January 2022
June 2021
November 2020
September 2020
June 2020
May 2020
April 2020
December 2019
October 2019
September 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
June 2015
April 2015
March 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
August 2014
July 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
October 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
January 2007
2006
2005
2004
2003
2002
2001
2000
1999
1998
1997


JiscMail is a Jisc service.

View our service policies at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ and Jisc's privacy policy at https://www.jisc.ac.uk/website/privacy-notice

For help and support help@jisc.ac.uk

Secured by F-Secure Anti-Virus CataList Email List Search Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager